In article <[email protected]>, Lloyd
E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > I would probably re-string it with stainless steel wire once the
> > originals started to rust if I had one. :-)
>
> I'd probably trash the whole thing and make a one-sided Lyre, so I didn't
> have to fish out errant strands of pasta from between the wires of that
> silly 'cage'.
>
> That's the WORST-designed kitchen tool I've seen in a long time. Just
> _everything_ is wrong with it.
>
> How easy do you suppose it is to get dough out of the little crevices
> where the wires intersect the aluminum castings. (Oh! I know! You're
> NEVER supposed to get any dough on anything but the bare wires -- right!
> I wonder if the designer ever actually MADE any pasta?)
>
> I won't disagree that it is a pasta cutter. I saw the photos, too. But
> it's a terrible design. And WHERE THE HELL WOULD YOU STORE THAT
> THING?!?! Any impact with the wires screws it up good'n'proper, and it's
> BIG! Delicate AND big... hmmm... keep it out on the counter all the
> time?
I bet the originals used music wire. This won't be at all delicate.
Stainless steel wire may be too weak and stretchy for this use.
In use, everything will be coated in flour dust, to prevent sticking.
I bet they didn't ever wash these, instead just knocking the loose
stuff off and setting it aside to dry. (From my vacations in Italy,
the Italians are not so germ-phobic as in the US. Doesn't seem to
cause much of a problem for the Italians.)
Joe Gwinn
On Friday, March 21, 2014 5:50:13 PM UTC-5, Rob H. wrote:
> > I'd like to ask everyone to remember to post their replies to all three newsgroups,
I don't know if I know how to do that, if I'm not already. I visit rec.woodworking, only, and post there. If posting 'there' doesn't accomplish the postings at other newsgroups, automatically, then I don't know how to post elsewhere.
Sonny
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:39:25 AM UTC-5, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Larger images: http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new Rob
3134 - Guessing: A crimper (for fabric, paper, foil, etc.) for making flowers, tufts, specific folds or other similar craft designs, projects.
3133 - Guessing: Truffle shaver
Sonny
On 3/20/2014 4:39 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desk top PC in the living room
as always.
3133, perhaps postage stamp dispenser?
3134, some kind of cutter?
3135, slicer for ballistic launched hard boiled eggs?
3136, scoop of some kind, but for what?
3137, angle finder and C clamp combination.
Maybe for making roof truss?
3138, some combination pliers and cutter, but
no clue why.
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On 3/20/2014 10:31 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 3/20/2014 9:27 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> On 3/20/2014 4:39 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Larger images:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> Posting from my desk top PC in the living room
>> as always.
>>
> Oh please go to your pc in your room.
> And don't come out.
>
I'd be so bored.... nothing to do but sort
dirty socks, and post to usenet. You'd get
tired of me.
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"Stanley Daniel de Liver" <[email protected]> writes:
>On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 01:12:22 -0000, DoN. Nichols =
>
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-20, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Larger images:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
>[]
>> 3135) Your own puzzler.
>>
>> No electrical terminals, so a non-inductive resistor or heating
>> element does not work.
>>
>Ok, DIY harp doubles as a cheese-grater.
>
>I was thinking of a strainer, but cleaning would be difficult. I note th=
>e =
>
>protuberances at the top might permit it to be held horizontally off a =
>
>surface, but there's no equivalent on the base.
>There appears to be a slot at the base that would allow a rectangular it=
>em =
>
>to be inserted.
>A picture to emphasise the moir=E9 effect?
It's obviously a pasta maker. See earlier posts.
On 3/21/2014 4:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3133) This looks to me like a device for skiving leather belt
>> material to a desired thickness. Is there a spring under the
>> wooden block under the wing nut? If so, then the wing nut is
>> used to adjust the thickness. (The anti-rotation piece on the
>> back suggests this to me.) You could also adjust the thickness
>> by adding shims under the block, if there is not a spring.
>
>
> I think that skiving tool is correct but I'm not 100% sure. I'll ask the owner
> if
> there is any way to adjust the blade height.
>
> No answer yet for the wire device but the rest of them have been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/03/set-537.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
>
Rob, Sonny had found the item, he has posted it a few times.
Maybe I should repost the link. It's a pasta cutter.
http://www.fantes.com/7868.html
Sonny
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On 3/20/2014 9:27 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 3/20/2014 4:39 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> Posting from my desk top PC in the living room
> as always.
>
Oh please go to your pc in your room.
And don't come out.
> 3133, perhaps postage stamp dispenser?
> 3134, some kind of cutter?
> 3135, slicer for ballistic launched hard boiled eggs?
> 3136, scoop of some kind, but for what?
> 3137, angle finder and C clamp combination.
> Maybe for making roof truss?
> 3138, some combination pliers and cutter, but
> no clue why.
>
>
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Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:lge9ft029k6
@drn.newsguy.com:
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
3136 is a home freezer defrosting/cleaning scoop
3138 has just GOT to be a tool for skinning eels!
Lloyd
Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
>
> 3135 Since nobody has ID'd this yet, I'll venture a guess:
> I think this is an Aeolian Harp. I couldn't find any like it, but I'll
> speculate that with a lot of wires, all the same length, and all under
> the same tension, if the wind blows through it, it makes a reasonably
> loud tone.
>
>
>
I'd tend to agree that it's NOT a pasta cutter. There's no practical way
for a pasta cutter to be two-sided like that and get the bits out of the
middle cavity.
The fact that it was indeed made-to-purpose, and not cobbled up seems to
indicate some commercial value, though. I don't see a lot of market for
Aeolean Harps!
Lloyd
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
> I would probably re-string it with stainless steel wire once the
> originals started to rust if I had one. :-)
I'd probably trash the whole thing and make a one-sided Lyre, so I didn't
have to fish out errant strands of pasta from between the wires of that
silly 'cage'.
That's the WORST-designed kitchen tool I've seen in a long time. Just
_everything_ is wrong with it.
How easy do you suppose it is to get dough out of the little crevices
where the wires intersect the aluminum castings. (Oh! I know! You're
NEVER supposed to get any dough on anything but the bare wires -- right!
I wonder if the designer ever actually MADE any pasta?)
I won't disagree that it is a pasta cutter. I saw the photos, too. But
it's a terrible design. And WHERE THE HELL WOULD YOU STORE THAT
THING?!?! Any impact with the wires screws it up good'n'proper, and it's
BIG! Delicate AND big... hmmm... keep it out on the counter all the
time?
Lloyd
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
> Sort of like a cast iron frying pan. You season it, and *never*
> wash it. Just scrub out excess oils from the cooking. If someone ever
> *does* wash it with detergents, you have to go through the seasoning
> process again.
>
OTOH, a good skillet gets sterilized by the heat of cooking...
Lloyd
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:30:15 AM UTC-5, Ted Schuerzinger wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 05:45:45 -0500, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote: > 3138 has just GOT to be a tool for skinning eels! I like eels, Except as meals. And hte way they feels. -- Ted S. fedya at hughes dot net Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com
LOL. ^5
*I don't mind eels,....
Ogden Nash
Sonny
On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:40:39 AM UTC-5, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Alexander Thesoso < fired this volley in news:lghp.me: > > 3135 Since nobody has ID'd this yet, I'll venture a guess:
> > > I'd tend to agree that it's NOT a pasta cutter. Lloyd
Maybe I should repost the link. It's a pasta cutter.
http://www.fantes.com/7868.html
Sonny
In article <op.xc0m7zq3o4et73@dell3100>, Stanley Daniel de Liver says...
>
>On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:39:25 -0000, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>>
>Electric heater (unsafe)
I guess it could be but I couldn't find one like it on the web.
In article <[email protected]>, Lloyd E.
Sponenburgh says...
>
>Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:lge9ft029k6
>@drn.newsguy.com:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>3136 is a home freezer defrosting/cleaning scoop
>
Correct
>3138 has just GOT to be a tool for skinning eels!
Sounds like a good secondary use for it!
>
>Lloyd
3135 Since nobody has ID'd this yet, I'll venture a guess:
I think this is an Aeolian Harp. I couldn't find any like it, but I'll
speculate that with a lot of wires, all the same length, and all under
the same tension, if the wind blows through it, it makes a reasonably
loud tone.
On 3/20/2014 4:18 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>3133) This looks to me like a device for skiving leather belt
> material to a desired thickness. Is there a spring under the
> wooden block under the wing nut? If so, then the wing nut is
> used to adjust the thickness. (The anti-rotation piece on the
> back suggests this to me.) You could also adjust the thickness
> by adding shims under the block, if there is not a spring.
I think that skiving tool is correct but I'm not 100% sure. I'll ask the owner
if
there is any way to adjust the blade height.
No answer yet for the wire device but the rest of them have been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/03/set-537.html#answers
Rob
On 3/21/2014 4:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3133) This looks to me like a device for skiving leather belt
>> material to a desired thickness. Is there a spring under the
>> wooden block under the wing nut? If so, then the wing nut is
>> used to adjust the thickness. (The anti-rotation piece on the
>> back suggests this to me.) You could also adjust the thickness
>> by adding shims under the block, if there is not a spring.
>
>
> I think that skiving tool is correct but I'm not 100% sure. I'll ask the owner
> if
> there is any way to adjust the blade height.
>
> No answer yet for the wire device but the rest of them have been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/03/set-537.html#answers
It is a pasta maker:
http://www.fantes.com/7868.html
Google "wire pasta maker" for many others.
Jeff
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>Rob, Sonny had found the item, he has posted it a few times.
>
>Maybe I should repost the link. It's a pasta cutter.
>http://www.fantes.com/7868.html
>
>Sonny
>
>
Thanks! And thanks to Sonny for the link! Some weeks I don't have time to check
all of the newsgroups so I only check rec.puzzles, I didn't see his post there.
I've never seen that type of pasta maker before, I'll send this answer along to
the owner of it.
I'd like to ask everyone to remember to post their replies to all three
newsgroups, I'm sure that others and myself have missed numerous posts that only
make it to one of the groups.
Have a great weekend everyone!
Rob
>I think that skiving tool is correct but I'm not 100% sure. I'll ask the owner
>if there is any way to adjust the blade height.
He said that the blade of 3133 is adjustable by turning the brass wing nut. I
updated my answer for this one to include that it could be a basket maker's
shave, there a few slightly similar tools in this search result:
https://www.google.com/search?
q=basket+makers+shave&num=20&newwindow=1&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&t
bm=isch&sa=X&ei=H10vU-e0GsqFyQHF6oHIDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1440&bih=785
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:39:25 -0000, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>
Electric heater (unsafe)
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
>
>
> Rob
>
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 01:12:22 -0000, DoN. Nichols =
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2014-03-20, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
[]
> 3135) Your own puzzler.
>
> No electrical terminals, so a non-inductive resistor or heating
> element does not work.
>
Ok, DIY harp doubles as a cheese-grater.
I was thinking of a strainer, but cleaning would be difficult. I note th=
e =
protuberances at the top might permit it to be held horizontally off a =
surface, but there's no equivalent on the base.
There appears to be a slot at the base that would allow a rectangular it=
em =
to be inserted.
A picture to emphasise the moir=E9 effect?
> Two nuts at the top to stretch the wires tight.
>
> Narrow opening at the top, and wide opening at the bottom.
>
> I don't see where the ends of the wire (one on each side, or one
> spanning both sides, depending) are attached.
>
> So -- I have two pure guesses:
>
> 1) It is to stretch (and thus harden) music wire.
>
Seems more likely
> 2) It is intended to demonstrate the Moir=E9* effect, more
> often seen when looking through two layers of window
> screen -- especially if they at angles to each other,
> but it can be seen from two sets of parallel wires. It
> is somewhat evident in the view of the bottom of the
> assembly. But would be clearer if photographed at a
> distance so both layers of wire were equally sharp.
Unlikely to need quite so many passes of the wire
> The '=E9' should show as an 'e' with an accent over it,
> but not all systems will show extended ASCII
> characters, nor show them the same on all systems, so I
> describe it here. :-)
Works OK here!
(rec.puzzles)
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On 2014-03-20, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with 3135 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/l60QW/new
Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking, as
always.
3133) This looks to me like a device for skiving leather belt
material to a desired thickness. Is there a spring under the
wooden block under the wing nut? If so, then the wing nut is
used to adjust the thickness. (The anti-rotation piece on the
back suggests this to me.) You could also adjust the thickness
by adding shims under the block, if there is not a spring.
Anyway -- it would be held in a vise, and the leather would be
drawn through it.
3134) At first view, I thought that the head of the bolt was polished
flat and I was seeing a reflection of a surface behind it, but
the larger images site shows me that it is concave instead.
Given the compound leverage, and the hefty return spring, I
think that it is a rather over-engineered nut cracker.
3135) Your own puzzler.
No electrical terminals, so a non-inductive resistor or heating
element does not work.
Two nuts at the top to stretch the wires tight.
Narrow opening at the top, and wide opening at the bottom.
I don't see where the ends of the wire (one on each side, or one
spanning both sides, depending) are attached.
So -- I have two pure guesses:
1) It is to stretch (and thus harden) music wire.
2) It is intended to demonstrate the Moiré* effect, more
often seen when looking through two layers of window
screen -- especially if they at angles to each other,
but it can be seen from two sets of parallel wires. It
is somewhat evident in the view of the bottom of the
assembly. But would be clearer if photographed at a
distance so both layers of wire were equally sharp.
The 'é' should show as an 'e' with an accent over it,
but not all systems will show extended ASCII
characters, nor show them the same on all systems, so I
describe it here. :-)
3136) Hmm ... perhaps for skimming dross (oxidized metal and
impurities from a pool of molten lead or solder?
3137) Hmm ... part 'A' is not wood, so given the apparent age
of the drawing (patent, I presume) it is more likely to be
metal, especially given the hex head on the clamp screw.
Plastics and wood would deform under the clamp. Part 'C' may be
wood, however.
The notch in the pivoting part looks designed for cutting wire,
but we never see it pivoted to an angle to expose the other
notch which should be there too.
So -- no real guess what it is supposed to do.
3138) It looks, in part, like a rather nasty spring-loaded trap,
perhaps for something like a gopher -- or a snake. Perhaps the
toothed jaws at the end are for gripping and extracting the
remainder of the victim.
Now to post this and see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2014-03-21, woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/21/2014 4:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
[ ... ]
>> No answer yet for the wire device but the rest of them have been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/03/set-537.html#answers
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
> Rob, Sonny had found the item, he has posted it a few times.
Hmmm ... perhaps posting in only one of the three newsgroups?
That would make it easy to miss. I did see someone posting that it was
a pasta maker, though I did not count the number of times, and I don't
believe that I saw the link.
> Maybe I should repost the link. It's a pasta cutter.
> http://www.fantes.com/7868.html
Intersting. I had mentally rejected any food processing item
because of the wood (hard to clean properly -- which cleaning is covered
in the web page), and as posted as a puzzle, it was missing the board
between the two sets of wires.
In particular, I could not imagine wood being used in something
currently being sold for food processing -- though for the very
restricted use range for which it was made, I guess that works.
I would probably re-string it with stainless steel wire once the
originals started to rust if I had one. :-)
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2014-03-22, Joe Gwinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Lloyd
> E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>
>> "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> > I would probably re-string it with stainless steel wire once the
>> > originals started to rust if I had one. :-)
>>
>> I'd probably trash the whole thing and make a one-sided Lyre, so I didn't
>> have to fish out errant strands of pasta from between the wires of that
>> silly 'cage'.
[ ... ]
> I bet the originals used music wire. This won't be at all delicate.
> Stainless steel wire may be too weak and stretchy for this use.
Not too delicate, but easy to rust.
> In use, everything will be coated in flour dust, to prevent sticking.
> I bet they didn't ever wash these, instead just knocking the loose
> stuff off and setting it aside to dry. (From my vacations in Italy,
> the Italians are not so germ-phobic as in the US. Doesn't seem to
> cause much of a problem for the Italians.)
The *design* is probably Italian, but this version is made in
the USA (Pennsylvania, IIRC).
If you read the page which was pointed to, they say to *not*
wash it in water. Just oil it down with something like (IIRC) peanut
oil to prevent rust on the strings and the stretching nuts and screws.
Sort of like a cast iron frying pan. You season it, and *never*
wash it. Just scrub out excess oils from the cooking. If someone ever
*does* wash it with detergents, you have to go through the seasoning
process again.
Enjoy,
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