JP

Jay Pique

19/08/2004 12:02 AM

Template Bandsawing

Anyone with any experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see
that LV has a duplicator available for $20 -
(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30053&category=1%2C41036&SID=&ccurrency=2)

I'd template rout, but there are a couple of sharp inside angles that
would have to be cleaned up anyhow, so if I could just do it on the
bandsaw that would be my preference.

What's the minumum diameter pattern routing bit that would cut a full
1.5 inches of depth?

JP


This topic has 8 replies

ML

"Michael Latcha"

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

19/08/2004 1:26 PM


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone with any experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see
> that LV has a duplicator available for $20 -
>
(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30053&category=1%2C41036&SID=&c
currency=2)
>


I used the LV duplicator to make 6 sets out of 1/4" baltic birch plywood of
the following manipulatives for handwriting instruction:

http://www.hwtears.com/woodpieces.htm

I made a master template of each of the curved pieces, as perfect as
possible, then cut the sets out 4 at a time with the double-sided tape that
came with the duplicator. Worked incredibly well, left a great finish
(started with a new 1/4" Timberwolf). All 144 pieces cut out, sanded (in
stacks of 4) and finished with BLO in 2 work sessions...

Michael Latcha - at home in Redford, MI

pR

[email protected] (Routerman P. Warner)

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

19/08/2004 5:40 AM

I would not use cutter <3/4 in diameter for trim cut. Doubt that there
is a bearing/cutter/trimmer (shank bearing) that is <3/4 anyway.
Some data on trimmers at the http://www.patwarner.com/patternbits.html
link.
**************************************
> Anyone with any experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see
> that LV has a duplicator available for $20 -
> (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30053&category=1%2C41036&SID=&ccurrency=2)
>
> I'd template rout, but there are a couple of sharp inside angles that
> would have to be cleaned up anyhow, so if I could just do it on the
> bandsaw that would be my preference.
>
> What's the minumum diameter pattern routing bit that would cut a full
> 1.5 inches of depth?
>
> JP

Gg

"George"

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

19/08/2004 8:51 AM

I flipped the piece and used it as its own template for the second pass when
I needed a pattern on 2" stock.

"Routerman P. Warner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would not use cutter <3/4 in diameter for trim cut. Doubt that there
> is a bearing/cutter/trimmer (shank bearing) that is <3/4 anyway.
> Some data on trimmers at the http://www.patwarner.com/patternbits.html
> link.
> **************************************
> > Anyone with any experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see
> > that LV has a duplicator available for $20 -
> >
(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30053&category=1%2C41036&SID=&c
currency=2)
> >
> > I'd template rout, but there are a couple of sharp inside angles that
> > would have to be cleaned up anyhow, so if I could just do it on the
> > bandsaw that would be my preference.
> >
> > What's the minumum diameter pattern routing bit that would cut a full
> > 1.5 inches of depth?
> >
> > JP

Gg

"George"

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

20/08/2004 6:39 AM

Jay - my ISP's news is only current during the day, so excuse what appears a
piggyback.

If you're going to go a full 3", as your most recent post says, and you have
an Oscillating Spindle Sander, you can pattern sand your bandsawn roughs. I
made an insert for my JET which takes the inserts used for a router and
found it a pretty good way to go. Down into the 1/2" spindle size, though.

"George" <george@least> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I flipped the piece and used it as its own template for the second pass
when
> I needed a pattern on 2" stock.

> > >
> > > What's the minumum diameter pattern routing bit that would cut a full
> > > 1.5 inches of depth?
> > >
> > > JP
>
>

RM

"Ron Magen"

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

19/08/2004 3:21 PM

Jay,
A few years ago I got the same 'duplicator' from Hartville Tool. If anyone
can get it to work on anything but a STRAIGHT cut, or VERY GENTLE curve . .
. let me know how.

I got it so I could make 8 cornices for a pergola-like Rose Arbor I was
making for Joanne. All it did for me was ruin the template {originally made
for drawing/routing}. It wouldn't follow the curve and cut off a corner
before I realized it.

The only 'technique' that seems to make 'engineering sense' is the simple
jig {the blade is 'captured' in a notch at the end of a rounded piece of
flat stock} illustrated in any number of bandsaw manuals. Chapter 5 in
Duginske's 'Band Saw' book, for example.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
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"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message > Anyone with any
experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see that LV has a
duplicator available for $20 -

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

22/08/2004 5:21 PM

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:39:05 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:

>If you're going to go a full 3", as your most recent post says, and you have
>an Oscillating Spindle Sander, you can pattern sand your bandsawn roughs. I
>made an insert for my JET which takes the inserts used for a router and
>found it a pretty good way to go. Down into the 1/2" spindle size, though.


Could you please explain in a little more detail how you "pattern
sand" using an OSS? It looks like I'll have to make a ring to sit
above the table that the template can ride against. Problem is, it
will have to be bigger than the spindle itself, right?

JP

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

19/08/2004 5:08 PM

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:24:26 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:02:46 -0400, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Anyone with any experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see
>>that LV has a duplicator available for $20 -
>>(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30053&category=1%2C41036&SID=&ccurrency=2)
>>
>>I'd template rout, but there are a couple of sharp inside angles that
>>would have to be cleaned up anyhow, so if I could just do it on the
>>bandsaw that would be my preference.
>>
>>What's the minumum diameter pattern routing bit that would cut a full
>>1.5 inches of depth?
>>
>>JP
>
>
>bandsaws do inside corners fine, but they don't leave a great surface.
>I'd probably bandsaw 1/8" oversize, clean up with the router and get
>the corners with a chisel.
>
>what are you making?

Decorative right angle supports for under the eaves of a building.
They're going to be a full 3" thick, which complicates things a bit.

JP

b

in reply to Jay Pique on 19/08/2004 12:02 AM

18/08/2004 10:24 PM

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:02:46 -0400, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Anyone with any experience with using a template on a bandsaw? I see
>that LV has a duplicator available for $20 -
>(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30053&category=1%2C41036&SID=&ccurrency=2)
>
>I'd template rout, but there are a couple of sharp inside angles that
>would have to be cleaned up anyhow, so if I could just do it on the
>bandsaw that would be my preference.
>
>What's the minumum diameter pattern routing bit that would cut a full
>1.5 inches of depth?
>
>JP


bandsaws do inside corners fine, but they don't leave a great surface.
I'd probably bandsaw 1/8" oversize, clean up with the router and get
the corners with a chisel.

what are you making?


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