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john

08/11/2004 9:08 PM

Painting & Brush Marks

I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?


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Old Nick

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

09/11/2004 8:34 AM

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:08:00 GMT, john <[email protected]> vaguely
proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

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OOI, has anyone _tried_ the old oil-based idea of "lots of thin,
rather than one thick" as in actually water the paint down, idea? I
can see problems with running, so you would need to lay down lots of
careful layers. But plastic paints were designed to "cream" onto walls
etc with as few coats as possible. IMO.

>I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
>what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
>Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?
>

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in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

08/11/2004 2:16 PM

> I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
> what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
> Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?

A couple of suggestions. One, there's a product called Floetrol that can be
added to your paint. It improves the flowout of latex paints and extends the
drying time slightly, which in turn helps to minimize brush marks. Most
paint stores and big box home stores carry it. The other item to consider is
your paintbrush. Ideally you'd be using a brush made specifically for latex
paints with synthetic bristles and flogged ends.

Bp

"Baron"

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

08/11/2004 8:29 PM

If you go the Floetrol route, remember that it will start to thin the
paint. A tiny bit of Floetrol won't make a noticeable difference but if you
work your way to the recommended maximum, you will start to see a
difference.
Someone already suggested using the right brush. Use a synthetic. A
natural bristle brush tens to clump in water borne paints. Think of what
you hair looks like after a shower. The pad suggestion is a good one but I
found they don't hold much paint.
I used to hate it when I heard the suggestion of "flow on the paint".
Now that I've done it a few times, I must say it is the correct advice.
Don't try to "brush" on the paint as much as letting a slightly thick layer
flow from the brush to the plywood. Initially, it looks like too much was
applied but as the paint dries and then cures, it looks like the proper
amount but with no brush marks. Don't overbrush the paint. Once it is on
the plywood, leave it alone. The only possible exception to this is to "tip
off" the wet paint immediately after it has been applied. This may help
level the coating before it starts to dry. I do not recommend this
technique with acrylic paints but for standard vinyl or vinyl + acrylic it
may work very well.

Good Luck.


"john" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
> what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
> Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?
>
>

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igor

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

08/11/2004 11:13 PM

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:49:01 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"john" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
>> what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
>> Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?
>
>
>Change brushes. Use one of the pad brushes that look and feel like velvet.
>
How 'bout if I cut up my old Velvet Elvis that for so long has hung over
the LR couch?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

08/11/2004 11:14 PM


"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:49:01 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"john" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
>>> what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
>>> Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?
>>
>>
>>Change brushes. Use one of the pad brushes that look and feel like
>>velvet.
>>
> How 'bout if I cut up my old Velvet Elvis that for so long has hung over
> the LR couch?

'~) Only if you glue foam rubber to the back of it.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

09/11/2004 3:43 AM

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:08:00 GMT, john <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
>what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
>Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?
>
Did you "tip off?" Use the proper brush? Paint horizontal surfaces?
Paint too thick? Lightly sanding between coats?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

09/11/2004 3:22 AM


"Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If you go the Floetrol route, remember that it will start to thin the
> paint. A tiny bit of Floetrol won't make a noticeable difference but if
> you
> work your way to the recommended maximum, you will start to see a
> difference.
> Someone already suggested using the right brush. Use a synthetic. A
> natural bristle brush tens to clump in water borne paints. Think of what
> you hair looks like after a shower. The pad suggestion is a good one but
> I
> found they don't hold much paint.

You have to use the pad brushes with the foam rubber backing. I generally
can paint the side of a door with about 4 dips into the paint tray.



Lr

"Leon"

in reply to john on 08/11/2004 9:08 PM

08/11/2004 10:49 PM


"john" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm getting brush marks when painting a plywood cabinet and not sure
> what I'm doing wrong. I'm using gloss latex paint over latex primer.
> Do I need to thin the paint or lay down more paint, or something else?


Change brushes. Use one of the pad brushes that look and feel like velvet.


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