dD

18/10/2004 10:56 AM

Shaper: Bore size question

What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
bore sizes (if any)?


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dD

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

19/10/2004 5:32 PM

I am looking at the Shop Fox shaper line. The 2HP says it comes with
1/2" and 3/4" spindles, while the 3HP come with both those as well as
a 1". Now all the cutters I've looked at are either 1/2", 3/4" or 1
1/4" bore. So a couple of follow up questions:

1) Are the 1 1/4" bore cutters, meant for the 1" spindle? Or, is there
such a thing as a 1" bore cutter that I haven't run accross yet? It
seems strange to me that the woodstock catalog I have lists 1 1/4
cutters, but they don't list a shaper with a 1 1/4 spindle.

2) If 3/4" is plenty good for the hobbist, as suggested in prior
responses, should the 2HP be OK, or should I go with the "more power
option" for a few $$ more (always my inclination, whether I need it or
not!)

BTW: Anyone have a Shop Fox shaper? If so, what do you think of it?

Thanks,

Dave

jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<yL9dd.1241$%[email protected]>...
> Joe Wells wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:12:19 +0000, jo4hn wrote:
> [snip]
> >>I have the same shaper. Many 3/4 cutters come with a bushing to 1/2".
> >
> >
> > Does the 1/2" bushing work OK in practice? I'm restoring a 1/2" shaper and
> > I'll be getting into tooling for it soon...
> >
> I have never had a problem with the 3/4 bushed, not even with the three
> shape cutters. But of course, I am a hobbyist user.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

jj

jo4hn

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

19/10/2004 2:12 AM

Wilson wrote:

> There are even some 1/2" bore shaper cutters out there. I have an old C'man
> shaper with 1/2" spindle. It works very well, by the way. I do all my
> frames on it and leave a panel raiser on my bigger one.
> Wilson
> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
>>bore sizes (if any)?
>
I have the same shaper. Many 3/4 cutters come with a bushing to 1/2".
mahalo,
jo4hn

EM

Eddie Munster

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

19/10/2004 10:10 AM

Well a lot of selection is 3/4 bore. Just look around. Pretend you are
cutter shopping for some type.

John

Joe Wells wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:12:19 +0000, jo4hn wrote:
>
>
>>Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There are even some 1/2" bore shaper cutters out there. I have an old
>>>C'man shaper with 1/2" spindle. It works very well, by the way. I do
>>>all my frames on it and leave a panel raiser on my bigger one. Wilson
>>>"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
>>>>bore sizes (if any)?
>>>
>>I have the same shaper. Many 3/4 cutters come with a bushing to 1/2".
>
>
> Does the 1/2" bushing work OK in practice? I'm restoring a 1/2" shaper and
> I'll be getting into tooling for it soon...
>

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

18/10/2004 7:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Dave) wrote:
>What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
>bore sizes (if any)?

Cutters ("bits" are for routers) with a 3/4" bore fit 3/4" spindles, cutters
with a 1 1/8" bore fit 1 1/8" spindles. So buy cutters that fit the spindle(s)
that are available on your shaper.

The 3/4" cutters will be substantially less expensive, and easier to find.

If your shaper will handle both sizes of spindle, but the only spindle you
have for it is the larger one, you'll save a ton of money in the long run by
buying a 3/4" spindle. It won't take very many 3/4" cutters (maybe a single
rail-and-stile set) before you've saved enough on the cutters to recover the
cost of the spindle.

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in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

18/10/2004 11:45 AM

On 18 Oct 2004 10:56:13 -0700, [email protected] (Dave)
wrote:

>What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
>bore sizes (if any)?


buy the bits that fit your shaper.

bigger bits fit bigger shapers, which have more power, more capacity
on the table, etc. this is one case where bigger is better, assuming
you have a need, space, budget, etc.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

19/10/2004 12:27 PM

Here in Europe we'd call that machine (with a shaft) a spindle
moulder.

What we call a "shaper" is like a big router with a fixed table.
There's a collet of 1/2" to 1" diameter, and it will take router
cutters with shafts. They run at slower speeds than routers though.

Are such machines found in the US ? What are they called ?

--
Smert' spamionam

JW

Joe Wells

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

18/10/2004 10:31 PM

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:12:19 +0000, jo4hn wrote:

> Wilson wrote:
>
>> There are even some 1/2" bore shaper cutters out there. I have an old
>> C'man shaper with 1/2" spindle. It works very well, by the way. I do
>> all my frames on it and leave a panel raiser on my bigger one. Wilson
>> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
>>>bore sizes (if any)?
>>
> I have the same shaper. Many 3/4 cutters come with a bushing to 1/2".

Does the 1/2" bushing work OK in practice? I'm restoring a 1/2" shaper and
I'll be getting into tooling for it soon...

--
Joe Wells

Wi

"Wilson"

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

19/10/2004 12:09 AM

There are even some 1/2" bore shaper cutters out there. I have an old C'man
shaper with 1/2" spindle. It works very well, by the way. I do all my
frames on it and leave a panel raiser on my bigger one.
Wilson
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is the advantage/disadvantage of buying bits with 3/4" vs 1 1/8"
> bore sizes (if any)?

jj

jo4hn

in reply to [email protected] (Dave) on 18/10/2004 10:56 AM

19/10/2004 2:44 PM

Joe Wells wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:12:19 +0000, jo4hn wrote:
[snip]
>>I have the same shaper. Many 3/4 cutters come with a bushing to 1/2".
>
>
> Does the 1/2" bushing work OK in practice? I'm restoring a 1/2" shaper and
> I'll be getting into tooling for it soon...
>
I have never had a problem with the 3/4 bushed, not even with the three
shape cutters. But of course, I am a hobbyist user.
mahalo,
jo4hn


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