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Father Haskell

20/11/2010 2:02 PM

ungluing elmer's glue all

Need to join several small joints less than permanently to facilitate
repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups). Elmer's glue all
seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job. How to take apart
without damaging the joined wood too severely?


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Roy

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 9:22 PM

On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:12:39 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Nov 20, 7:50 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 11/20/10 4:02 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
>> > > Need to join several small joints less than permanently to facilitate
>> > > repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups).  Elmer's glue all
>> > > seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job.  How to take apart
>> > > without damaging the joined wood too severely?
>>
>> > Temporary glue joints can be obtained by placing paper between the
>> > pieces to be glued.
>> > Brown paper bags work well.
>>
>> > You may also want to check out some liquid hide glue (Titebond 5012).
>> > It can be unactivated with heat and/or steam
>>
>> Just make sure you buy it where you can check the expiration date.  The
>> bottles on the shelf at the local hardware store expired two years ago.  
>> And with liquid hide glue it _does_ matter.  I haven't looked on the
>> ones at Woodcraft.
>
>Urea is added to make it liquid when cold. Unfortunately, this also
>cuts the shelf life to 6 months. Old fashioned, dry hide glue has a
>shelf
>life of hundreds of years.

Your statement made me get up from watching the Aggies take on Nebraska and walk
out to the garashop to check my bottle of liquid hide glue, which is a little
shy of half full. It is Tightbond brand, made by Franklin, and has an
expiration date of July 98. Cleaned my glasses and made sure I read it right.

I knew I'd had it a while, but I sure didn't think it was anywhere near 12
years. Still liquid, still works fine. I last used it a month or so ago on an
antique dresser I repaired.

All I can say is that it has been kept tightly capped, cool and in the dark
since the day I brought it home. Maybe after the game I'll go out and glue a
couple scrap boards together with it, then see how easy it is to break the
joint.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 11:58 PM

Father Haskell wrote:
> On Nov 20, 7:50 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 11/20/10 4:02 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
>>>> Need to join several small joints less than permanently to
>>>> facilitate repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups). Elmer's
>>>> glue all seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job. How to
>>>> take apart without damaging the joined wood too severely?
>>
>>> Temporary glue joints can be obtained by placing paper between the
>>> pieces to be glued.
>>> Brown paper bags work well.
>>
>>> You may also want to check out some liquid hide glue (Titebond
>>> 5012). It can be unactivated with heat and/or steam
>>
>> Just make sure you buy it where you can check the expiration date.
>> The bottles on the shelf at the local hardware store expired two
>> years ago. And with liquid hide glue it _does_ matter. I haven't
>> looked on the ones at Woodcraft.
>
> Urea is added to make it liquid when cold. Unfortunately, this also
> cuts the shelf life to 6 months. Old fashioned, dry hide glue has a
> shelf
> life of hundreds of years.

Shoot - no freakin' problem. Go out an buy a sixer of the cheapest beer
money can buy. Drink it. Wait 20 minutes and you'll have all that urine
stuff you need to extend the life. Just hold it close - the aim ain't so
good after a sixer...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 6:08 PM


"Father Haskell" wrote:

> Need to join several small joints less than permanently to
> facilitate
> repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups).
-----------------
Double backed tape, about 50% coverage.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

21/11/2010 1:45 PM

A follow up suggestion, rubber cement.

Lew

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 5:12 PM

On Nov 20, 7:50=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>
>
> > On 11/20/10 4:02 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
> > > Need to join several small joints less than permanently to facilitate
> > > repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups). =A0Elmer's glue all
> > > seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job. =A0How to take apart
> > > without damaging the joined wood too severely?
>
> > Temporary glue joints can be obtained by placing paper between the
> > pieces to be glued.
> > Brown paper bags work well.
>
> > You may also want to check out some liquid hide glue (Titebond 5012).
> > It can be unactivated with heat and/or steam
>
> Just make sure you buy it where you can check the expiration date. =A0The
> bottles on the shelf at the local hardware store expired two years ago. =
=A0
> And with liquid hide glue it _does_ matter. =A0I haven't looked on the
> ones at Woodcraft.

Urea is added to make it liquid when cold. Unfortunately, this also
cuts the shelf life to 6 months. Old fashioned, dry hide glue has a
shelf
life of hundreds of years.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 7:50 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 11/20/10 4:02 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
> > Need to join several small joints less than permanently to facilitate
> > repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups). Elmer's glue all
> > seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job. How to take apart
> > without damaging the joined wood too severely?
>
> Temporary glue joints can be obtained by placing paper between the
> pieces to be glued.
> Brown paper bags work well.
>
> You may also want to check out some liquid hide glue (Titebond 5012).
> It can be unactivated with heat and/or steam

Just make sure you buy it where you can check the expiration date. The
bottles on the shelf at the local hardware store expired two years ago.
And with liquid hide glue it _does_ matter. I haven't looked on the
ones at Woodcraft.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 5:17 PM

On Nov 20, 5:17=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/20/10 4:02 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
>
> > Need to join several small joints less than permanently to facilitate
> > repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups). =A0Elmer's glue all
> > seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job. =A0How to take apart
> > without damaging the joined wood too severely?
>
> Temporary glue joints can be obtained by placing paper between the
> pieces to be glued.
> Brown paper bags work well.

Trick for mounting work on a faceplate, so that it can be split off
with a knife blade.

> You may also want to check out some liquid hide glue (Titebond 5012).
> It can be unactivated with heat and/or steam

Have the Elmer's, still waiting for payday.

I'm wondering what happens if the glue is diluted.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Father Haskell on 20/11/2010 2:02 PM

20/11/2010 4:17 PM

On 11/20/10 4:02 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
> Need to join several small joints less than permanently to facilitate
> repairs (wood encased homebrew guitar pickups). Elmer's glue all
> seems right, i.e. just weak enough for the job. How to take apart
> without damaging the joined wood too severely?

Temporary glue joints can be obtained by placing paper between the
pieces to be glued.
Brown paper bags work well.

You may also want to check out some liquid hide glue (Titebond 5012).
It can be unactivated with heat and/or steam


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-MIKE-

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