I should be getting a Fein Turbo II this weekend. I've been thinking about
how I will use it, and for most jobs, I won't want to use the auto-start
feature. I assume the load runs off the same cord as the vacuum, and I
have my shop wired specifically so my vacuum runs off a different breaker
from my machines.
It would still be nice to be able to turn the vacuum on & off remotely. I
have another vacuum that I run with a foot pedal switch like this:
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5465
It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that uses the
auto-start feature. For example, if it is sensitive enough, I could use a
switch connected to a small load resistor or a night-light bulb. I've got
plenty of wire & even a nice "pendant" switch that I could use. However, I
don't want to have to run an extra 100 W light bulb. Does anyone have any
idea what the minimum load requirment is to activate the auto-start?
Thanks!
Doug White
"Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that uses
>>> the auto-start feature.
Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum switched on
and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For that, you don't need
any load at all.
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> I was talking about this in the Festool Owners Group. For the Festool
>> vacuum anyway, a 60 watt bulb was sufficient to activate the auto on.
> If you get a lamp and install a red light bulb, when the vac is on the
> light could be too.
Not sure why you're using a "red" light bulb for your example, but my
original query on FOG had to do with an extension one could plug into the
autostart outlet, something with just a switch on the end of it that you
could essentially place anywhere you wanted it. My electronics knowledge is
all but non-existent so I was wondering if there was some minature power
drawing device that could be placed in the extension as the impetus to
activate the autostart feature. And, as mentioned, the lowest power drawing
device that anyone has come up with so far is the 60 watt light bulb, which
might be useful, but certainly is not small enough to "bury" in an extension
cord.
Doug White <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I should be getting a Fein Turbo II this weekend. I've been thinking
> about how I will use it, and for most jobs, I won't want to use the
> auto-start feature. I assume the load runs off the same cord as the
> vacuum, and I have my shop wired specifically so my vacuum runs off a
> different breaker from my machines.
>
> It would still be nice to be able to turn the vacuum on & off
> remotely. I have another vacuum that I run with a foot pedal switch
> like this:
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5465
>
> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that uses
> the auto-start feature. For example, if it is sensitive enough, I
> could use a switch connected to a small load resistor or a night-light
> bulb. I've got plenty of wire & even a nice "pendant" switch that I
> could use. However, I don't want to have to run an extra 100 W light
> bulb. Does anyone have any idea what the minimum load requirment is
> to activate the auto-start?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug White
>
5W. It'll be stated right on the vacuum next to the outlet.
Bonus data: The max load is around 2000W. That's harder to find.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> If the Fein works like the Festool, my 14W floresent lamp will not
>> trigger the auto on. My Makita 12v charger will trigger it to turn
>> on if there is a battery being charged, otherwise no.
>
> I was talking about this in the Festool Owners Group. For the Festool
> vacuum anyway, a 60 watt bulb was sufficient to activate the auto on.
>
>
If you get a lamp and install a red light bulb, when the vac is on the
light could be too.
FWIW, there's three modes on the Fein: On, Autostart, and Off. The
outlet is live through all modes, so it just senses current draw and
turns on. There's probably no need to do anything fancier than just plug
the vacuum in to a switched outlet and turn that on and off.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> If you get a lamp and install a red light bulb, when the vac is on
>> the light could be too.
>
> Not sure why you're using a "red" light bulb for your example, but my
> original query on FOG had to do with an extension one could plug into
> the autostart outlet, something with just a switch on the end of it
> that you could essentially place anywhere you wanted it. My
> electronics knowledge is all but non-existent so I was wondering if
> there was some minature power drawing device that could be placed in
> the extension as the impetus to activate the autostart feature. And,
> as mentioned, the lowest power drawing device that anyone has come up
> with so far is the 60 watt light bulb, which might be useful, but
> certainly is not small enough to "bury" in an extension cord.
>
The red light bulb is just for the cool factor. The OP could put it
outside above the door with a sign that says "Do not enter while red
light is on."
A resistor would fit the bill, but by the time you got one large enough
to dissipate the heat for such a large draw, you're probably in light
bulb territory anyway. How about a terranium heater? It uses a standard
light bulb socket, but produces only heat. Use a standard trouble light,
and the extension cord switch is easy.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
"Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that
>>>>> uses the auto-start feature.
>>
>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>
> That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's fairly
> small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are only a few
> different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated the momentary
> contact
> & variable speed models, I've found the following:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Off-Foot-Switch-Peachtree-Woodworking/dp/B000H5I0V4
> (This is the one I have, and you have to press down on one end to turn it
> on, and on the other end to turn it off, which is a bit fussy. The cord
> has a stacking plug, so both the switch & the tool plug in at the outlet.)
>
> http://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9089-Switch-Continuous-
> Running/dp/B000LJNJOY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
> (A bit larger, and appears to be plastic. Tool plugs into the back, which
> isn't quite as tidy. Several reviews say it's light and/or flimsy.)
>
> http://lectricair.com/products/lectricair-products/foot-switches/alternate-
> action-foot-switch/
> (This one is pneumatic. The rubber bulbs tend to degrade & leak, but
> replacements are cheap)
>
> All of them could be bolted to a weighted plate, but it would be nice if
> that wasn't necessary.
>
> The one I have has been reliable. I suppose I could get a second and make
> two plates & fix both of them, but the rocking action is a little
> annoying.
> The plug setup is nice.
>
> Anyone know of any I've missed?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug White
This one works well for me:
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/speed_control.html
or :
http://tinyurl.com/ylewdap
(bottom of the page)
Max
"Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that
>>>>>>> uses the auto-start feature.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>>>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>>>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>>>
>>> That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's
>>> fairly small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are only
>>> a few different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated the
>>> momentary contact
>>> & variable speed models, I've found the following:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Off-Foot-Switch-Peachtree-Woodworking/dp/B000H5I
>>> 0V4 (This is the one I have, and you have to press down on one end to
>>> turn it on, and on the other end to turn it off, which is a bit
>>> fussy. The cord has a stacking plug, so both the switch & the tool
>>> plug in at the outlet.)
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9089-Switch-Continuous-
>>> Running/dp/B000LJNJOY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
>>> (A bit larger, and appears to be plastic. Tool plugs into the back,
>>> which isn't quite as tidy. Several reviews say it's light and/or
>>> flimsy.)
>>>
>>> http://lectricair.com/products/lectricair-products/foot-switches/alter
>>> nate- action-foot-switch/
>>> (This one is pneumatic. The rubber bulbs tend to degrade & leak, but
>>> replacements are cheap)
>>>
>>> All of them could be bolted to a weighted plate, but it would be nice
>>> if that wasn't necessary.
>>>
>>> The one I have has been reliable. I suppose I could get a second and
>>> make two plates & fix both of them, but the rocking action is a
>>> little annoying.
>>> The plug setup is nice.
>>>
>>> Anyone know of any I've missed?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Doug White
>>
>>
>> This one works well for me:
>> http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/s
>> peed_control.html
>
> I'm looking for a FOOT switch. This is for a vacuum, which I believe has
> it's own speed control. My experience is that 2 speed controls in series
> is usually a bad idea, even if one is set full on. The noise from one
> causes the other to freak out.
>
> I just want a switch that turns full on with one push, and off with a
> second. Not variable speed, and not something I have to stand on to
> operate, i.e. momentary contact.
>
> Doug White
Uh...........It's at the BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
It's NOT variable speed. It's NOT momentary contact. Step on it to turn it
on; step on it to turn it off.
It doesn't get much simpler than that. I have two of them. They work just
fine.
Max
"Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote
>>>>>>>>> that uses the auto-start feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>>>>>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>>>>>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's
>>>>> fairly small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are
>>>>> only a few different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated
>>>>> the momentary contact
>>>>> & variable speed models, I've found the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Off-Foot-Switch-Peachtree-Woodworking/dp/B000H
>>>>> 5I 0V4 (This is the one I have, and you have to press down on one
>>>>> end to turn it on, and on the other end to turn it off, which is a
>>>>> bit fussy. The cord has a stacking plug, so both the switch & the
>>>>> tool plug in at the outlet.)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9089-Switch-Continuous-
>>>>> Running/dp/B000LJNJOY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
>>>>> (A bit larger, and appears to be plastic. Tool plugs into the
>>>>> back, which isn't quite as tidy. Several reviews say it's light
>>>>> and/or flimsy.)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lectricair.com/products/lectricair-products/foot-switches/alt
>>>>> er nate- action-foot-switch/
>>>>> (This one is pneumatic. The rubber bulbs tend to degrade & leak,
>>>>> but replacements are cheap)
>>>>>
>>>>> All of them could be bolted to a weighted plate, but it would be
>>>>> nice if that wasn't necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> The one I have has been reliable. I suppose I could get a second
>>>>> and make two plates & fix both of them, but the rocking action is a
>>>>> little annoying.
>>>>> The plug setup is nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know of any I've missed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug White
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This one works well for me:
>>>> http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages
>>>> /s peed_control.html
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a FOOT switch. This is for a vacuum, which I believe
>>> has it's own speed control. My experience is that 2 speed controls
>>> in series is usually a bad idea, even if one is set full on. The
>>> noise from one causes the other to freak out.
>>>
>>> I just want a switch that turns full on with one push, and off with a
>>> second. Not variable speed, and not something I have to stand on to
>>> operate, i.e. momentary contact.
>>>
>>> Doug White
>>
>>
>> Uh...........It's at the BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
>> It's NOT variable speed. It's NOT momentary contact. Step on it to
>> turn it on; step on it to turn it off.
>> It doesn't get much simpler than that. I have two of them. They work
>> just fine.
>
> Sorry about that, I didn't scroll down far enough. Several reviews claim
> these are fairly light, and that they tend to move around, or get dragged
> by the cords. Do you find that is an issue?
>
> Doug White
On the bottoms of the switches I put some material that I bought to line the
shelves in my RV.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/product/grip-it-shelf-cushion-liners/6901
I think the Borgs have it too.
Max
"Mark M" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> ?
>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
*trim*
>>
>> A resistor would fit the bill, but by the time you got one large
>> enough to dissipate the heat for such a large draw,
>
> Why a large draw? I thought that the threshold to turn the vacuum on
> was very small. The vacuum isn't in series.
>
> Mark
>
Right... the current draw (scribbles on screen) is only .041A, which in
most things is miniscule. However, looking at the total power needed, a
simple 1/8W or 1/4W resistor probably isn't going to cut it.
Puckdropper (Minus 2 pts for using a technical term incorrectly.)
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
On Sep 29, 10:27=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> RE: Subject
>
> A classic case of where a magnetic motor starter on the table saw with
> an extra aux contact to control the Fein not only improves safety but
> simplifies the control circuitry.
>
> Lew
Triac? Simple.
"Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I should be getting a Fein Turbo II this weekend. I've been thinking about
> how I will use it, and for most jobs, I won't want to use the auto-start
> feature. I assume the load runs off the same cord as the vacuum, and I
> have my shop wired specifically so my vacuum runs off a different breaker
> from my machines.
>
> It would still be nice to be able to turn the vacuum on & off remotely.
> I
> have another vacuum that I run with a foot pedal switch like this:
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5465
>
> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that uses the
> auto-start feature. For example, if it is sensitive enough, I could use a
> switch connected to a small load resistor or a night-light bulb. I've got
> plenty of wire & even a nice "pendant" switch that I could use. However,
> I
> don't want to have to run an extra 100 W light bulb. Does anyone have any
> idea what the minimum load requirment is to activate the auto-start?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug White
If the Fein works like the Festool, my 14W floresent lamp will not trigger
the auto on. My Makita 12v charger will trigger it to turn on if there is a
battery being charged, otherwise no.
IF you are concerned about blowing a breaker with both a tool and the vac
coming on at the same time, the Festool has a delay to start a couple of
seconds after the tool is turned on.
"Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Thanks! The Aquiline near the bottom looks very nice. These are just
> switches, so I'd have to wire up my own cord(s). I'd really like to find
> a cord with a stacking plug and the "hot" wire interrupted.
I don't know if you saw them, but if you scroll down far enough, there's a
double and a triple Linemaster device activation box. Or maybe you might
just want to go simple with a switched outlet. They have a switch in place
of a one of the regular outlet plugs and can be wired to turn the adjacent
plug on and off. Install one of these into a regular outlet box, plug a
vacuum into it and flick the switch when you want it on.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> If the Fein works like the Festool, my 14W floresent lamp will not trigger
> the auto on. My Makita 12v charger will trigger it to turn on if there is
> a battery being charged, otherwise no.
I was talking about this in the Festool Owners Group. For the Festool vacuum
anyway, a 60 watt bulb was sufficient to activate the auto on.
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in news:4ca3cf52$0$23828
[email protected]:
> Doug White <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I should be getting a Fein Turbo II this weekend. I've been thinking
>> about how I will use it, and for most jobs, I won't want to use the
>> auto-start feature. I assume the load runs off the same cord as the
>> vacuum, and I have my shop wired specifically so my vacuum runs off a
>> different breaker from my machines.
>>
>> It would still be nice to be able to turn the vacuum on & off
>> remotely. I have another vacuum that I run with a foot pedal switch
>> like this:
>>
>> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5465
>>
>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that uses
>> the auto-start feature. For example, if it is sensitive enough, I
>> could use a switch connected to a small load resistor or a night-light
>> bulb. I've got plenty of wire & even a nice "pendant" switch that I
>> could use. However, I don't want to have to run an extra 100 W light
>> bulb. Does anyone have any idea what the minimum load requirment is
>> to activate the auto-start?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Doug White
>>
>
> 5W. It'll be stated right on the vacuum next to the outlet.
>
> Bonus data: The max load is around 2000W. That's harder to find.
Excellent! Thanks! That means a 7W night light bulb will work just
fine.
Doug White
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that
>>>> uses the auto-start feature.
>
> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
> that, you don't need any load at all.
That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's fairly
small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are only a few
different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated the momentary contact
& variable speed models, I've found the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Off-Foot-Switch-Peachtree-Woodworking/dp/B000H5I0V4
(This is the one I have, and you have to press down on one end to turn it
on, and on the other end to turn it off, which is a bit fussy. The cord
has a stacking plug, so both the switch & the tool plug in at the outlet.)
http://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9089-Switch-Continuous-
Running/dp/B000LJNJOY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
(A bit larger, and appears to be plastic. Tool plugs into the back, which
isn't quite as tidy. Several reviews say it's light and/or flimsy.)
http://lectricair.com/products/lectricair-products/foot-switches/alternate-
action-foot-switch/
(This one is pneumatic. The rubber bulbs tend to degrade & leak, but
replacements are cheap)
All of them could be bolted to a weighted plate, but it would be nice if
that wasn't necessary.
The one I have has been reliable. I suppose I could get a second and make
two plates & fix both of them, but the rocking action is a little annoying.
The plug setup is nice.
Anyone know of any I've missed?
Thanks!
Doug White
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that
>>>>>> uses the auto-start feature.
>>>
>>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>>
>> That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's
>> fairly small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are only
>> a few different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated the
>> momentary contact
>> & variable speed models, I've found the following:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Off-Foot-Switch-Peachtree-Woodworking/dp/B000H5I
>> 0V4 (This is the one I have, and you have to press down on one end to
>> turn it on, and on the other end to turn it off, which is a bit
>> fussy. The cord has a stacking plug, so both the switch & the tool
>> plug in at the outlet.)
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9089-Switch-Continuous-
>> Running/dp/B000LJNJOY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
>> (A bit larger, and appears to be plastic. Tool plugs into the back,
>> which isn't quite as tidy. Several reviews say it's light and/or
>> flimsy.)
>>
>> http://lectricair.com/products/lectricair-products/foot-switches/alter
>> nate- action-foot-switch/
>> (This one is pneumatic. The rubber bulbs tend to degrade & leak, but
>> replacements are cheap)
>>
>> All of them could be bolted to a weighted plate, but it would be nice
>> if that wasn't necessary.
>>
>> The one I have has been reliable. I suppose I could get a second and
>> make two plates & fix both of them, but the rocking action is a
>> little annoying.
>> The plug setup is nice.
>>
>> Anyone know of any I've missed?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Doug White
>
>
> This one works well for me:
> http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/s
> peed_control.html
I'm looking for a FOOT switch. This is for a vacuum, which I believe has
it's own speed control. My experience is that 2 speed controls in series
is usually a bad idea, even if one is set full on. The noise from one
causes the other to freak out.
I just want a switch that turns full on with one push, and off with a
second. Not variable speed, and not something I have to stand on to
operate, i.e. momentary contact.
Doug White
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Doug White <[email protected]> writes:
>>"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that
>>>>>> uses the auto-start feature.
>>>
>>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>>
>>That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's
>>fairly small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are only
>>a few different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated the
>>momentary contact & variable speed models, I've found the following:
>>
>
> [elided]
>
>>
>>Anyone know of any I've missed?
>
> http://www.linemaster.com/Industrial/Footswitch.aspx
Thanks! The Aquiline near the bottom looks very nice. These are just
switches, so I'd have to wire up my own cord(s). I'd really like to find
a cord with a stacking plug and the "hot" wire interrupted. That's how
the one I have now is setup, and it reduces the number of cords running
around a bit. Maybe I could get a replacement cord for the one I have &
install it on the Aquiline switch.
Doug White
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote
>>>>>>>> that uses the auto-start feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>>>>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>>>>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>>>>
>>>> That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's
>>>> fairly small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are
>>>> only a few different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated
>>>> the momentary contact
>>>> & variable speed models, I've found the following:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Off-Foot-Switch-Peachtree-Woodworking/dp/B000H
>>>> 5I 0V4 (This is the one I have, and you have to press down on one
>>>> end to turn it on, and on the other end to turn it off, which is a
>>>> bit fussy. The cord has a stacking plug, so both the switch & the
>>>> tool plug in at the outlet.)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9089-Switch-Continuous-
>>>> Running/dp/B000LJNJOY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
>>>> (A bit larger, and appears to be plastic. Tool plugs into the
>>>> back, which isn't quite as tidy. Several reviews say it's light
>>>> and/or flimsy.)
>>>>
>>>> http://lectricair.com/products/lectricair-products/foot-switches/alt
>>>> er nate- action-foot-switch/
>>>> (This one is pneumatic. The rubber bulbs tend to degrade & leak,
>>>> but replacements are cheap)
>>>>
>>>> All of them could be bolted to a weighted plate, but it would be
>>>> nice if that wasn't necessary.
>>>>
>>>> The one I have has been reliable. I suppose I could get a second
>>>> and make two plates & fix both of them, but the rocking action is a
>>>> little annoying.
>>>> The plug setup is nice.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know of any I've missed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Doug White
>>>
>>>
>>> This one works well for me:
>>> http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages
>>> /s peed_control.html
>>
>> I'm looking for a FOOT switch. This is for a vacuum, which I believe
>> has it's own speed control. My experience is that 2 speed controls
>> in series is usually a bad idea, even if one is set full on. The
>> noise from one causes the other to freak out.
>>
>> I just want a switch that turns full on with one push, and off with a
>> second. Not variable speed, and not something I have to stand on to
>> operate, i.e. momentary contact.
>>
>> Doug White
>
>
> Uh...........It's at the BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
> It's NOT variable speed. It's NOT momentary contact. Step on it to
> turn it on; step on it to turn it off.
> It doesn't get much simpler than that. I have two of them. They work
> just fine.
Sorry about that, I didn't scroll down far enough. Several reviews claim
these are fairly light, and that they tend to move around, or get dragged
by the cords. Do you find that is an issue?
Doug White
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Thanks! The Aquiline near the bottom looks very nice. These are
>> just switches, so I'd have to wire up my own cord(s). I'd really
>> like to find a cord with a stacking plug and the "hot" wire
>> interrupted.
>
> I don't know if you saw them, but if you scroll down far enough,
> there's a double and a triple Linemaster device activation box. Or
> maybe you might just want to go simple with a switched outlet. They
> have a switch in place of a one of the regular outlet plugs and can be
> wired to turn the adjacent plug on and off. Install one of these into
> a regular outlet box, plug a vacuum into it and flick the switch when
> you want it on.
If you dig deep enough, they list exactly what I was looking for:
http://tinyurl.com/2annw8v
This is a fairly heavy (13 oz) all metal switch, with a push-on/push-off
activation. It isn't obvious, but the Model 971-DC3JM has a little link
next to it to a note that says it comes with an 8 foot cord and the 3
prong adapter plug that you can put in series with the power plug to the
tool.
The trick is that they list it, but no one seems to sell them. Allied
Electronics sells the plastic version:
http://tinyurl.com/27o5h9y
but this weighs about 1/4 what the all-metal one does. I have a query in
to the company to see if they sell direct, or can recommend a
distributor.
As an aside, I just got my Fein Turbo II vacuum, and although it is very
quiet, the switch configuration is really poor. It's hidden below a lip,
and you have to operate it by feel unless you want to kneel down. I'm
_definitely_ going to put a foot switch on this puppy.
Doug White
Doug White <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> Thanks! The Aquiline near the bottom looks very nice. These are
>>> just switches, so I'd have to wire up my own cord(s). I'd really
>>> like to find a cord with a stacking plug and the "hot" wire
>>> interrupted.
>>
>> I don't know if you saw them, but if you scroll down far enough,
>> there's a double and a triple Linemaster device activation box. Or
>> maybe you might just want to go simple with a switched outlet. They
>> have a switch in place of a one of the regular outlet plugs and can
>> be wired to turn the adjacent plug on and off. Install one of these
>> into a regular outlet box, plug a vacuum into it and flick the switch
>> when you want it on.
>
> If you dig deep enough, they list exactly what I was looking for:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2annw8v
>
> This is a fairly heavy (13 oz) all metal switch, with a
> push-on/push-off activation. It isn't obvious, but the Model
> 971-DC3JM has a little link next to it to a note that says it comes
> with an 8 foot cord and the 3 prong adapter plug that you can put in
> series with the power plug to the tool.
>
> The trick is that they list it, but no one seems to sell them. Allied
> Electronics sells the plastic version:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/27o5h9y
>
> but this weighs about 1/4 what the all-metal one does. I have a query
> in to the company to see if they sell direct, or can recommend a
> distributor.
I called the company, and they sell direct. ~ $60 for the all metal #
971-DC3JM with the stacking plug switch cord. That's a good bit more
than a lot of the foot switches on the market, but it appears to be a
much better switch. I'll know in a few days...
Doug White
Doug White <[email protected]> writes:
>"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Doug White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> It occured to me that I might be able to rig a custom remote that
>>>>> uses the auto-start feature.
>>
>> Why do you need to use the autostart feature? Leave the vacuum
>> switched on and plug it directly into a foot activated switch. For
>> that, you don't need any load at all.
>
>That's definitely an option. I have one on another vac, but it's fairly
>small & light, and tends to move around a lot. There are only a few
>different ones on the market. Once you've eliminated the momentary contact
>& variable speed models, I've found the following:
>
[elided]
>
>Anyone know of any I've missed?
http://www.linemaster.com/Industrial/Footswitch.aspx
axirr
?
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
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> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>>> If you get a lamp and install a red light bulb, when the vac is on
>>> the light could be too.
>>
>> Not sure why you're using a "red" light bulb for your example, but my
>> original query on FOG had to do with an extension one could plug into
>> the autostart outlet, something with just a switch on the end of it
>> that you could essentially place anywhere you wanted it. My
>> electronics knowledge is all but non-existent so I was wondering if
>> there was some minature power drawing device that could be placed in
>> the extension as the impetus to activate the autostart feature. And,
>> as mentioned, the lowest power drawing device that anyone has come up
>> with so far is the 60 watt light bulb, which might be useful, but
>> certainly is not small enough to "bury" in an extension cord.
>>
>
> The red light bulb is just for the cool factor. The OP could put it
> outside above the door with a sign that says "Do not enter while red
> light is on."
>
> A resistor would fit the bill, but by the time you got one large enough
> to dissipate the heat for such a large draw,
Why a large draw? I thought that the threshold to turn the vacuum on was
very small. The vacuum isn't in series.
Mark
you're probably in light
> bulb territory anyway. How about a terranium heater? It uses a standard
> light bulb socket, but produces only heat. Use a standard trouble light,
> and the extension cord switch is easy.
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
On 10/1/10 12:40 PM, Doug White wrote:
> Sorry about that, I didn't scroll down far enough. Several reviews claim
> these are fairly light, and that they tend to move around, or get dragged
> by the cords. Do you find that is an issue?
>
> Doug White
Yes, and I already had to repair it. But I got it when it was like 10
bucks with free shipping, when I bought a bigger item. I think it's
worth it and I've thought about screwing it down to something heavier or
replacing the bottom with some steel and a rubber pad.
BTW, it's this...
<http://www.harborfreight.com/momentary-power-foot-switch-96619.html>
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