In article <[email protected]>,
grrly girl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1592 : I don't know the name, but it goes around a hearth
Fender.
On Apr 16, 5:45=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
A tough set.
1595 - a corner clamp, used for holding wood in a mitered
corner to be glued. Those dogs would dig in quite heavily,
so if the wood is a softwood, the dogs would leave marks.
John
On Apr 15, 11:45=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
1593. The step for a carriage. The kind attached to the carriage not
this kind of carriage step: http://www.petroliaheritage.com/crcarstep1.jpg
1596. Clay bird thrower for skeet shooting. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/=
TRAP400-1.html
Karl
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
A guess of 1591
Maybe it went on top of a mine shaft and was used as an elevator winch.
Maybe the poles were to hand crank it to lower or raise.
Rob H. said:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
You have been saved from a whole list of "Star Wars"-related answers
by the fact that my list was getting so strained near the end that
I couldn't think of a way to justify posting it.
But I did think the first photograph looked very like an early
sandcrawler design (dating back to Tatooine's Wood Age), and the
second was clearly a snap of a couple of prototypical lightsabers.
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On Apr 16, 4:45=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
1591. is a big "compresser" of sorts. Man, that's a BIG chunk of
butter! Probably for compressing cotton for baling.
1592. railing from the end of a bar (not that I would know *anything*
about such things!)
1593. carriage or wagon step
1594. put some rosin between the two parts and twist - it's a bird
call
1594. a clamp for gluing up miters or a latch that holds the corners
together
1595. clay pigeon trap
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
My guesses:
1591 - It would be interesting to see the interior of this thing. Is it
perhaps a cotton baling press or something along those lines?
1592 - I'd guess this is either a decorative thingy for the top of a
cabinet, or else a large andiron sort of protector for a fireplace--most
likely the former.
1593 - Step for mounting a carriage, wagon, train car, or other high
wooden vehicle, bolted to the framework of said vehicle
1594 - Would seem to be a press of some sort, not really sure for what
though.
1595 - Clamp/tool for assembling picture frames or window frames; the
claws draw the frame up into the corner, and the notches near the corner
presumably allow the application of some permanent fastener. I'd
imagine you'd have to do some further filling/finishing to get rid of
the claw marks afterwards.
1596 - Sporting clay pigeon thrower, sitting next to an unrelated
electrical disconnect box. Pulling the string would release the
spring-loaded arm, tossing the pigeon. This particular one doesn't seem
to have any adjustments except for spring tension; I'd kind of expect to
see an elevation adjustment, too, but maybe that's done by pounding the
stakes more or less into the earth.
Now off to read other people's guesses!
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Andrew Erickson
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lose." -- Jim Elliot
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> Rob
1592 : I don't know the name, but it goes around a hearth.
1593 : Carriage step
1596 : Looks like a /frisbee-like launcher
1581 I have a guess, but I have conflicts about my guess.
A cotton baler. (to compress cotton into bales)
Supporting the guess:
It is about the right size and shape.
How it might work:
Rotating the bottom shaft with the ratchet levers winds up a rope on the
shaft. This pulls the angled levers (one we see, and its opposite mate)
inward. This raises a platform (A rectangular box, tall enough to not twist
or bind) to squash the cotton against a fixed top. The machine is shown in
its squashed position. In its open position, the levers stick out a couple
of feet. In the fully squashed position, the platform is at the height of
the belt around the machine. Then the hooks at the top are opened, the door
lowered onto a wagon, and the bale pushed out. Then lower the platform,
heave in more cotton, latch the doors and repeat.
Problems with this theory:
There doesn't seem to be a latch on the shaft, so losing one's grasp will
swing the levers up, knocking the worker's (slave's?) teeth out.
There doesn't seem to be any way to tie or strap the bale.
There is no good way to unwind the rope or to lower the platform, other than
gravity.
The compression is less than 2:1. I thought cotton bales were compressed
more that that much.
There is no good way to get the cotton in, or to keep it in.
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> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob
1591 I have a guess, but I have conflicts about my guess.
A cotton baler. (to compress cotton into bales)
Supporting the guess:
It is about the right size and shape.
How it might work:
Rotating the bottom shaft with the ratchet levers winds up a rope on the
shaft. This pulls the angled levers (one we see, and its opposite mate)
inward. This raises a platform (A rectangular box, tall enough to not twist
or bind) to squash the cotton against a fixed top. The machine is shown in
its squashed position. In its open position, the levers stick out a couple
of feet. In the fully squashed position, the platform is at the height of
the belt around the machine. Then the hooks at the top are opened, the door
lowered onto a wagon, and the bale pushed out. Then lower the platform,
heave in more cotton, latch the doors and repeat.
Problems with this theory:
There doesn't seem to be a latch on the shaft, so losing one's grasp will
swing the levers up, knocking the worker's (slave's?) teeth out.
There doesn't seem to be any way to tie or strap the bale.
There is no good way to unwind the rope or to lower the platform, other than
gravity.
The compression is less than 2:1. I thought cotton bales were compressed
more that that much.
There is no good way to get the cotton in, or to keep it in.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
Rob H. wrote:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob
1591 - Looks like an OLD vertical baler. Would like to see the internals
to see if it's for hay or cotton. Tools were for the ratchets as you
surmised.
1592 - Hearth irons for your fireplace. Those look more decorative than
usable though.
1593 - Carriage step, Used for driver or passenger access depending on
how expensive the coach was. More expensive and fancier ones used them
only for the driver or footmen.
1594 - Looks like a small hand press or possibly a spice/mineral
grinder. Set it on a HARD surface or a grinding stone and load it, use
the piston to provide pressure while you ground the item?
1595 - OLD 90 degree clamp. May have been used to secure crates while
they were being nailed together.
1596 - Mechanical clay thrower used to throw single or double clay
targets for skeet or trap shooting. They simulate birds flight so you
can practice.
--
Steve W.
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> 1591 - Looks like an OLD vertical baler. Would like to see the internals
> to see if it's for hay or cotton. Tools were for the ratchets as you
> surmised.
It's for hay, I took the photos at an auction and didn't have a chance to
take any of the inside. I did take a look through the cracks and saw a rope
around the shaft at the bottom, as someone already mentioned. I was hoping
to find some patent drawings for it since text on it said "Dederick No. 4
Hay Press, Patented", I found a few Dederick patents but none that showed
how this press worked.
Rob
>
> I think these patents are about as close as you can get:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=99295
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=RE5022
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=RE5023
>
> I would guess that in the picture you took the plunger was
> in the up position (shrug).
>
Excellent work on finding those patents! I just added 99295 to the answer
page, it does a good job of explaining how the press works.
Thanks,
Rob
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob
1592 I have seen these around the hearth of old fireplaces.
1593 A step for a carriage or high wheeler vintage car.I seem to remember
steps like this on a 1902 (???) single cylinder Cadillac.
Steve R.
On 2009-04-16, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is just one unidentified item in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1591) Looks like something for casting either ice or
concrete and then dumping it.
1592) For turning the mold above to dump whatever was cast.
1593) Surrounds the front of a fireplace -- usually with a folding
wire screen behind it to keep glowing embers from shooting out
onto the rugh.
1594) A step for getting into a waggon?
1595) Piston fire starter?
1596) For holding the corner of a frame together while it is glued?
1597) Two things. The gray rectangular box with a red handle is a
power disconnect -- probably with fuses inside.
The thing on three legs looks like a clay pigeon launcher.
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Rob H. wrote:
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> Rob
1592 - Upper edging for the safety barrier developed by engineers at the
request of The Republican National Party after 73 year old presidential
canditate Bob Dole fell off a stage during the 1996 campaign.
Jeff
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:36:02 -0400, "Rob H."
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>> 1591 - Looks like an OLD vertical baler. Would like to see the internals
>> to see if it's for hay or cotton. Tools were for the ratchets as you
>> surmised.
>
>It's for hay, I took the photos at an auction and didn't have a chance to
>take any of the inside. I did take a look through the cracks and saw a rope
>around the shaft at the bottom, as someone already mentioned. I was hoping
>to find some patent drawings for it since text on it said "Dederick No. 4
>Hay Press, Patented", I found a few Dederick patents but none that showed
>how this press worked.
>
>
>Rob
I think these patents are about as close as you can get:
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=99295
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=RE5022
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=RE5023
I would guess that in the picture you took the plunger was
in the up position (shrug).
That dude had a lot of patents too, especially concerning
hay/cotton pressing...
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