SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
any means.
Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
I have indicators and straight edges and feeler gages out the
ying-yang...I'm a toolmaker by trade.
It'll be going in a basement on a Steel City mobile base. It's not
going mobile because I want it to, but because I have a VERY small
shop. 10.5 X 26 and there are lots of other toys...errrr....much
needed machinery down there.
Thanks
Mike
On Monday, March 12, 2012 7:05:08 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
> any means.
>
> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>
> I have indicators and straight edges and feeler gages out the
> ying-yang...I'm a toolmaker by trade.
>
> It'll be going in a basement on a Steel City mobile base. It's not
> going mobile because I want it to, but because I have a VERY small
> shop. 10.5 X 26 and there are lots of other toys...errrr....much
> needed machinery down there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
Nice buy. Just check\adjust the blade to the miter track and try to get it down below 2 thou alignment front to back. Then set the fence to the same miter track. Then let er rip... pun intended.
On Mar 18, 8:41=A0am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 10:03=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> > > On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
> > >> All granite is radioactive.
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3973tfsllqw
>
> > Great song. =A0:-)
>
> "Joy" by Apollo 100: =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_NBsJa-H978
Scratch that post. The "Joy" instrumental was on the ad, preceeding
the Radioactive song. I wasn't paying attention.
On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>
>>> Great song. :-)
>>>
>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>
> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in
> the history of music.
>
That most surely is true. "What A Wonderful World" as performed by
Louis Armstrong is one of them.
"Radioactive" is not one of them.
Compare these lyrics:
Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
radioactive.
There's not a fight and I'm not your captive. Turn me loose tonight,
cause I'm radioactive.
I want to stay with you, I want to play with you, baby. I want to lay
with you, and I want you to know.
Got to concentrate, don't be distractive. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
radioactive
With these:
I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you.
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
I see skies of blue, and clouds of white, the bright blessed day, and
the dark sacred night.
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the faces
of people going by.
I see friends shaking hands, saying, "How do you do?" They're really
saying, "I love you".
I hear babies cry, I watch them grow. They'll learn much more than I'll
ever know.
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Yes, I think to myself,
what a wonderful world.
The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive" never
will.
On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 3/16/2012 1:23 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>>>
>>>>> Great song. :-)
>>>>>
>>>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>>>
>>> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
>>> history of music.
>>>
>> That most surely is true. "What A Wonderful World" as performed by Louis
>> Armstrong is one of them.
>>
>> "Radioactive" is not one of them.
>>
>> Compare these lyrics:
>> Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
>> radioactive.
>> There's not a fight and I'm not your captive. Turn me loose tonight,
>> cause I'm
>> radioactive.
>> I want to stay with you, I want to play with you, baby. I want to lay
>> with you,
>> and I want you to know.
>> Got to concentrate, don't be distractive. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
>> radioactive
>>
>> With these:
>> I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you.
>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>>
>> I see skies of blue, and clouds of white, the bright blessed day, and
>> the dark
>> sacred night.
>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>>
>> The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the
>> faces of
>> people going by.
>> I see friends shaking hands, saying, "How do you do?" They're really
>> saying, "I
>> love you".
>>
>> I hear babies cry, I watch them grow. They'll learn much more than
>> I'll ever know.
>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Yes, I think to
>> myself, what a
>> wonderful world.
>>
>> The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive"
>> never will.
>
> You're comparing apples to oranges, and you're also comparing just the
> lyrics, not the complete package.
I posted the link so people could LISTEN to both songs and compare the
complete package.
> They are both "great" songs within their own genres. Within the rock
> genre, "Radioactive" has already stood the test of time; it came out
> almost thirty years ago and is still well recognized and gets radio
> play today, and I'd be willing to bet that that will still be true
> thirty or more years from now.
Funny, I listen often to my local rock oldies station. I have NEVER
heard that song play.
> Still, I will admit that within the rock genre there are perhaps many
> MANY other songs that are more deserving of the "great" description
> (notice I didn't describe it as a "GREAT" song)
I will concede that "great" has a subjective component. However, if
100 million people think a song is great, that is a better indication
than if only one thousand do.
I HAVE heard these get radio time. Personally, I'd hold them up against
"Radioactive" any time. Since it is all subjective, feel free to
disagree. And even if you don't agree they're "great", if you like
oldies rock, sit back and enjoy anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9TGj2jrJk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOUqRZkR8dE&ob=av3n
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoMWa3jRtLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txlXcJDtDwM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrjOzKth9GE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhNm3WI8myM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ&ob=av2e
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP94PlEtsEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9muzyOd4Lh8
>
> Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing
> "Radioactive" as a "great song".
And I didn't expect to start a stink by saying "What a Wonderful World"
is great while "Radioactive" isn't.
> Though it does make me tap my feet and bob my head, it does NOT make
> me feel the way Satchmo does when he sings "It's a Wonderful World".
> Perhaps that can serve as my apology for stepping on YOUR idea of a
> "great song". :-)
It's all good. No apology is needed.
On 3/19/2012 12:38 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 3/18/2012 8:41 AM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Mar 14, 10:03 pm, Steve Turner<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>
>>> Great song. :-)
>> "Joy" by Apollo 100: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NBsJa-H978
>
> Good song that I probably have not heard in 30 years but absolutely a
> rip off of an old Christmas song.
Not quite, it's a good rock version of the baroque classical piece,
Bach's Cantata 147, Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring.
Here it is about the way Bach originally wrote it. (Don't listen to it
and drive at the same time.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwWL8Y-qsJg
I'd rather listen to this version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPeVIuRjUi4
On Mar 14, 3:27=A0pm, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3/14/2012 9:28 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> >>> "SconnieRoadie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:c5d74d03-e129-4354-ae4b-44724e2b2534@g16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com=
...
> >>> On Mar 12, 9:05 pm, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
> >>>> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
> >>>> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
> >>>> any means.
>
> >>>> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
> >>>> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>
> >>> Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
> >>> the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
>
> >> I got in the habit of pushing the miter gauge and tennon jig off the
> >> back of the saw and onto the outfeed table when I remove them and vice
> >> versa. This so I don't bugger things up and have good control over the=
m.
> >> This technique might be especially useful with the granite top.
>
> >>> Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
> >>> from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
> >>> radioactive... NOT kidding...
>
> >> Sure sounds like competitive product marketing at work... that or if w=
e
> >> are to believe some groups, Obama. ;~)
>
> >http://solidsurfacealliance.org/G-radioactivity-radon-issues.html
>
> Kind of supports my contention that "fear appeal marketing" by competitiv=
e
> products is at play... =A0i.e., your reference from solidsurfacealliance.=
org.
> ;~)
>
> The a priori (and a posteriori) solution to this, and myriad other home
> sourced illnesses, is active air turnover. The tight homes of today need
> fresh air intakes... Closed up basements full of ground sourced radon are=
a
> big problem in some areas. Having a negative-pressure radon management
> system is demanded in some cases whereas in others the draw from dryers a=
nd
> flame heated appliances (furnaces, boilers, hot water heaters) sucks enou=
gh
> air out of the basement, while drawing in air through gaps (basement
> windows, sill plates, cracked mortar joints, garage doors, etc.) to keep =
the
> levels down. Bath and kitchen power ventilation helps as outside air is
> pulled into the house via gaps.
>
> If the air replacement is great enough, radiation, allergen and antigen
> levels don't build up to the point where they present health problem grea=
ter
> than background levels. As such, fresh air intakes with air-to-air heat
> exchangers are well worth considering in tight homes... that and getting =
rid
> of the dogs, cats, gerbils, smokers, bad cooking, carpets, man-made wood
> products, plastics, polyester fiber fill, woodshops, and other things tha=
t
> out gas and pollute interior air. ;~)
>
> John
You had me at gerbils.
Mike <[email protected]> writes:
> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
> any means.
So, you gonna buy us all some cigars?
Congrats.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3/14/2012 9:28 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>
>>> "SconnieRoadie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:c5d74d03-e129-4354-ae4b-44724e2b2534@g16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 12, 9:05 pm, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
>>>> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
>>>> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
>>>> any means.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
>>>> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>>
>>
>>> Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
>>> the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
>>
>> I got in the habit of pushing the miter gauge and tennon jig off the
>> back of the saw and onto the outfeed table when I remove them and vice
>> versa. This so I don't bugger things up and have good control over them.
>> This technique might be especially useful with the granite top.
>>
>>
>>> Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
>>> from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
>>> radioactive... NOT kidding...
>>
>> Sure sounds like competitive product marketing at work... that or if we
>> are to believe some groups, Obama. ;~)
>
>
> http://solidsurfacealliance.org/G-radioactivity-radon-issues.html
Kind of supports my contention that "fear appeal marketing" by competitive
products is at play... i.e., your reference from solidsurfacealliance.org.
;~)
The a priori (and a posteriori) solution to this, and myriad other home
sourced illnesses, is active air turnover. The tight homes of today need
fresh air intakes... Closed up basements full of ground sourced radon are a
big problem in some areas. Having a negative-pressure radon management
system is demanded in some cases whereas in others the draw from dryers and
flame heated appliances (furnaces, boilers, hot water heaters) sucks enough
air out of the basement, while drawing in air through gaps (basement
windows, sill plates, cracked mortar joints, garage doors, etc.) to keep the
levels down. Bath and kitchen power ventilation helps as outside air is
pulled into the house via gaps.
If the air replacement is great enough, radiation, allergen and antigen
levels don't build up to the point where they present health problem greater
than background levels. As such, fresh air intakes with air-to-air heat
exchangers are well worth considering in tight homes... that and getting rid
of the dogs, cats, gerbils, smokers, bad cooking, carpets, man-made wood
products, plastics, polyester fiber fill, woodshops, and other things that
out gas and pollute interior air. ;~)
John
Congratulations! I'm envious but can't offer any help.
Ralph
"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
> any means.
>
> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>
> I have indicators and straight edges and feeler gages out the
> ying-yang...I'm a toolmaker by trade.
>
> It'll be going in a basement on a Steel City mobile base. It's not
> going mobile because I want it to, but because I have a VERY small
> shop. 10.5 X 26 and there are lots of other toys...errrr....much
> needed machinery down there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>
>>> Great song. :-)
>>>
>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>
>
> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
> history of music.
Yabbut, but ol' Satchmo always made both my mouth and ears grin with
pleasure, and without much technology needed.
:)
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On 3/18/2012 8:41 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Mar 14, 10:03 pm, Steve Turner<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>
>> Great song. :-)
>>
>
> "Joy" by Apollo 100: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NBsJa-H978
Good song that I probably have not heard in 30 years but absolutely a
rip off of an old Christmas song.
-MIKE- wrote:
>
> Thank me with beer. Good beer. :-)
Piels!!!! Send -MIKE- Piels! It's almost a national treasure by now...
--
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[email protected]
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:23:14 -0600, Just Wondering
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive" never
>will.
You just may be right. I did not get past 30 seconds of Radioactive.
On Mar 12, 9:05=A0pm, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
> any means.
>
> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>
> I have indicators and straight edges and feeler gages out the
> ying-yang...I'm a toolmaker by trade.
>
> It'll be going in a basement on a Steel City mobile base. It's not
> going mobile because I want it to, but because I have a VERY small
> shop. 10.5 X 26 and there are lots of other toys...errrr....much
> needed machinery down there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
radioactive... NOT kidding...
I have one, and every time I rip a board and lean up against the saw I
think to myself: I am treating my prostate prophylactically ;)
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0621305430354.html
Anyhoo... enjoy yours, I *love* mine.
Sconnie
Steve Turner wrote:
>
> Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing
> "Radioactive" as a "great song". Though it does make me tap my feet
> and bob my head, it does NOT make me feel the way Satchmo does when
> he sings "It's a Wonderful World". Perhaps that can serve as my
> apology for stepping on YOUR idea of a "great song". :-)
That's where the whole area of subjective assessment comes in. I have the
most profound respect for a number of past musicians and vocalists, but I
don't necessarily like one thing they did. Not my style. They don't get me
humming along, or tapping my foot... in fact, they can have me waiting
impatiently for the song to end. Just does not hit me. Other music, which
some might consider to be lesser, strikes me much more where I live, and
ranks among the greatest for me. Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd would be
one of those songs. To me - absolutely one of the greatest songs ever. To
others - maybe not so much. Likewise, for me Sing Me Back Home by Merle
Haggard - one of the greatest ever. There - how's that for two opposite
ends of the spectrum?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Mar 14, 10:03=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> > On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
> >> All granite is radioactive.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3973tfsllqw
>
> Great song. =A0:-)
>
"Joy" by Apollo 100: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_NBsJa-H978
>"SconnieRoadie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:c5d74d03-e129-4354-ae4b-44724e2b2534@g16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>On Mar 12, 9:05 pm, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
>> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
>> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
>> any means.
>>
>> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
>> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
>the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
I got in the habit of pushing the miter gauge and tennon jig off the back of
the saw and onto the outfeed table when I remove them and vice versa. This
so I don't bugger things up and have good control over them. This technique
might be especially useful with the granite top.
>Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
>from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
>radioactive... NOT kidding...
Sure sounds like competitive product marketing at work... that or if we are
to believe some groups, Obama. ;~)
>I have one, and every time I rip a board and lean up against the saw I
>think to myself: I am treating my prostate prophylactically ;)
>http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0621305430354.html
Competitive product marketing is mentioned here but they left out Obama! ;~)
John
On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 3/14/2012 9:01 AM, SconnieRoadie wrote:
>> On Mar 12, 9:05 pm, Mike<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
>>> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
>>> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
>>> any means.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
>>> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>>>
>>> I have indicators and straight edges and feeler gages out the
>>> ying-yang...I'm a toolmaker by trade.
>>>
>>> It'll be going in a basement on a Steel City mobile base. It's not
>>> going mobile because I want it to, but because I have a VERY small
>>> shop. 10.5 X 26 and there are lots of other toys...errrr....much
>>> needed machinery down there.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
>> the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
>>
>> Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
>> from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
>> radioactive... NOT kidding...
>
> All granite is radioactive.
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
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On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>> All granite is radioactive.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
Great song. :-)
--
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(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
To reply, eat the taco.
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On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>
>> Great song. :-)
>>
> No, THIS is a great song.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
history of music.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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On 3/15/12 3:10 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>>
>>>> Great song. :-)
>>>>
>>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>>
>>
>> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
>> history of music.
>
> Yabbut, but ol' Satchmo always made both my mouth and ears grin with
> pleasure, and without much technology needed.
>
> :)
>
Go chase some kids off your lawn! :-p
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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On 3/16/2012 1:23 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>>
>>>> Great song. :-)
>>>>
>>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>>
>> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
>> history of music.
>>
> That most surely is true. "What A Wonderful World" as performed by Louis
> Armstrong is one of them.
>
> "Radioactive" is not one of them.
>
> Compare these lyrics:
> Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm radioactive.
> There's not a fight and I'm not your captive. Turn me loose tonight, cause I'm
> radioactive.
> I want to stay with you, I want to play with you, baby. I want to lay with you,
> and I want you to know.
> Got to concentrate, don't be distractive. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
> radioactive
>
> With these:
> I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you.
> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>
> I see skies of blue, and clouds of white, the bright blessed day, and the dark
> sacred night.
> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>
> The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the faces of
> people going by.
> I see friends shaking hands, saying, "How do you do?" They're really saying, "I
> love you".
>
> I hear babies cry, I watch them grow. They'll learn much more than I'll ever know.
> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Yes, I think to myself, what a
> wonderful world.
>
> The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive" never will.
You're comparing apples to oranges, and you're also comparing just the lyrics,
not the complete package. They are both "great" songs within their own genres.
Within the rock genre, "Radioactive" has already stood the test of time; it
came out almost thirty years ago and is still well recognized and gets radio
play today, and I'd be willing to bet that that will still be true thirty or
more years from now. Still, I will admit that within the rock genre there are
perhaps many MANY other songs that are more deserving of the "great"
description (notice I didn't describe it as a "GREAT" song), but the fact that
it still gets radio play and didn't wither away into obscurity two months after
its release means at least something.
Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing "Radioactive" as a
"great song". Though it does make me tap my feet and bob my head, it does NOT
make me feel the way Satchmo does when he sings "It's a Wonderful World".
Perhaps that can serve as my apology for stepping on YOUR idea of a "great
song". :-)
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On 3/16/12 1:23 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>>
>>>> Great song. :-)
>>>>
>>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>>
>> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in
>> the history of music.
>>
> That most surely is true. "What A Wonderful World" as performed by Louis
> Armstrong is one of them.
>
> "Radioactive" is not one of them.
>
> Compare these lyrics:
> Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
> radioactive.
> There's not a fight and I'm not your captive. Turn me loose tonight,
> cause I'm radioactive.
> I want to stay with you, I want to play with you, baby. I want to lay
> with you, and I want you to know.
> Got to concentrate, don't be distractive. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
> radioactive
>
> With these:
> I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you.
> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>
> I see skies of blue, and clouds of white, the bright blessed day, and
> the dark sacred night.
> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>
> The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the faces
> of people going by.
> I see friends shaking hands, saying, "How do you do?" They're really
> saying, "I love you".
>
> I hear babies cry, I watch them grow. They'll learn much more than I'll
> ever know.
> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Yes, I think to myself,
> what a wonderful world.
>
> The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive" never
> will.
There's a lot more to a song than lyrics. In any case, arguing about
music is like arguing about women or ice cream flavors. It's pretty
pointless. Everybody likes different things. There is no "bad' music. If
someone likes it, it's good... to them. That's all that matters. This
isn't an objective matter like needing exterior glue for an outdoor
project. This is like "what color should I make it."
What I really can't stand, however, is the arrogance of someone who
feels the need to interject their own opinion to put down another
person's choice in something as completely subjective as music.
Pathetic. I have never tolerated that and never will.
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-MIKE-
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On 3/16/12 8:52 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 3/16/2012 1:23 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>>>
>>>>> Great song. :-)
>>>>>
>>>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>>>
>>> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
>>> history of music.
>>>
>> That most surely is true. "What A Wonderful World" as performed by Louis
>> Armstrong is one of them.
>>
>> "Radioactive" is not one of them.
>>
>> Compare these lyrics:
>> Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
>> radioactive.
>> There's not a fight and I'm not your captive. Turn me loose tonight,
>> cause I'm
>> radioactive.
>> I want to stay with you, I want to play with you, baby. I want to lay
>> with you,
>> and I want you to know.
>> Got to concentrate, don't be distractive. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
>> radioactive
>>
>> With these:
>> I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you.
>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>>
>> I see skies of blue, and clouds of white, the bright blessed day, and
>> the dark
>> sacred night.
>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>>
>> The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the faces of
>> people going by.
>> I see friends shaking hands, saying, "How do you do?" They're really
>> saying, "I
>> love you".
>>
>> I hear babies cry, I watch them grow. They'll learn much more than
>> I'll ever know.
>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Yes, I think to myself,
>> what a
>> wonderful world.
>>
>> The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive"
>> never will.
>
> You're comparing apples to oranges, and you're also comparing just the
> lyrics, not the complete package. They are both "great" songs within
> their own genres. Within the rock genre, "Radioactive" has already stood
> the test of time; it came out almost thirty years ago and is still well
> recognized and gets radio play today, and I'd be willing to bet that
> that will still be true thirty or more years from now. Still, I will
> admit that within the rock genre there are perhaps many MANY other songs
> that are more deserving of the "great" description (notice I didn't
> describe it as a "GREAT" song), but the fact that it still gets radio
> play and didn't wither away into obscurity two months after its release
> means at least something.
>
> Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing "Radioactive"
> as a "great song". Though it does make me tap my feet and bob my head,
> it does NOT make me feel the way Satchmo does when he sings "It's a
> Wonderful World". Perhaps that can serve as my apology for stepping on
> YOUR idea of a "great song". :-)
>
You are a much more diplomatic and patient man than I. :-)
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-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On 3/16/2012 9:42 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>
>>
>> Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing
>> "Radioactive" as a "great song". Though it does make me tap my feet
>> and bob my head, it does NOT make me feel the way Satchmo does when
>> he sings "It's a Wonderful World". Perhaps that can serve as my
>> apology for stepping on YOUR idea of a "great song". :-)
>
> That's where the whole area of subjective assessment comes in. I have the
> most profound respect for a number of past musicians and vocalists, but I
> don't necessarily like one thing they did. Not my style. They don't get me
> humming along, or tapping my foot... in fact, they can have me waiting
> impatiently for the song to end. Just does not hit me.
Totally agree.
> Other music, which
> some might consider to be lesser, strikes me much more where I live, and
> ranks among the greatest for me. Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd would be
> one of those songs. To me - absolutely one of the greatest songs ever.
Now THAT, in my humble opinion, is a GREAT song, regardless of the fact that
the lyrics are about as far away from "It's a Wonderful World" as you can get.
There are other songs I would put in the GREAT category where the lyrics have
practically no meaning whatsoever; they are used almost entirely for their
sonic and rhythmic qualities, yet somehow they also seem to trigger thoughts of
achieving greater things. Or something like that. :-)
In any case, this discussion has led me to conclude that this is a great life,
and that this IS a Wonderful World, and as such I've been singing "Radioactive"
for the past two days. Thanks -MIKE-. :-)
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On 3/16/12 12:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 3/16/2012 9:42 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing
>>> "Radioactive" as a "great song". Though it does make me tap my feet
>>> and bob my head, it does NOT make me feel the way Satchmo does when
>>> he sings "It's a Wonderful World". Perhaps that can serve as my
>>> apology for stepping on YOUR idea of a "great song". :-)
>>
>> That's where the whole area of subjective assessment comes in. I have the
>> most profound respect for a number of past musicians and vocalists, but I
>> don't necessarily like one thing they did. Not my style. They don't
>> get me
>> humming along, or tapping my foot... in fact, they can have me waiting
>> impatiently for the song to end. Just does not hit me.
>
> Totally agree.
>
>> Other music, which
>> some might consider to be lesser, strikes me much more where I live, and
>> ranks among the greatest for me. Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd would be
>> one of those songs. To me - absolutely one of the greatest songs ever.
>
> Now THAT, in my humble opinion, is a GREAT song, regardless of the fact
> that the lyrics are about as far away from "It's a Wonderful World" as
> you can get. There are other songs I would put in the GREAT category
> where the lyrics have practically no meaning whatsoever; they are used
> almost entirely for their sonic and rhythmic qualities, yet somehow they
> also seem to trigger thoughts of achieving greater things. Or something
> like that. :-)
>
> In any case, this discussion has led me to conclude that this is a great
> life, and that this IS a Wonderful World, and as such I've been singing
> "Radioactive" for the past two days. Thanks -MIKE-. :-)
>
Thank me with beer. Good beer. :-)
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-MIKE-
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On 3/16/2012 9:51 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/16/12 8:52 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 3/16/2012 1:23 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 3/15/2012 12:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 3/15/12 1:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great song. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, THIS is a great song.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
>>>>
>>>> It might just be possible that there is more than one great song in the
>>>> history of music.
>>>>
>>> That most surely is true. "What A Wonderful World" as performed by Louis
>>> Armstrong is one of them.
>>>
>>> "Radioactive" is not one of them.
>>>
>>> Compare these lyrics:
>>> Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
>>> radioactive.
>>> There's not a fight and I'm not your captive. Turn me loose tonight,
>>> cause I'm
>>> radioactive.
>>> I want to stay with you, I want to play with you, baby. I want to lay
>>> with you,
>>> and I want you to know.
>>> Got to concentrate, don't be distractive. Turn me on tonight, cause I'm
>>> radioactive
>>>
>>> With these:
>>> I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you.
>>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>>>
>>> I see skies of blue, and clouds of white, the bright blessed day, and
>>> the dark
>>> sacred night.
>>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
>>>
>>> The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the faces of
>>> people going by.
>>> I see friends shaking hands, saying, "How do you do?" They're really
>>> saying, "I
>>> love you".
>>>
>>> I hear babies cry, I watch them grow. They'll learn much more than
>>> I'll ever know.
>>> And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Yes, I think to myself,
>>> what a
>>> wonderful world.
>>>
>>> The latter song has already stood the test of time, "Radioactive"
>>> never will.
>>
>> You're comparing apples to oranges, and you're also comparing just the
>> lyrics, not the complete package. They are both "great" songs within
>> their own genres. Within the rock genre, "Radioactive" has already stood
>> the test of time; it came out almost thirty years ago and is still well
>> recognized and gets radio play today, and I'd be willing to bet that
>> that will still be true thirty or more years from now. Still, I will
>> admit that within the rock genre there are perhaps many MANY other songs
>> that are more deserving of the "great" description (notice I didn't
>> describe it as a "GREAT" song), but the fact that it still gets radio
>> play and didn't wither away into obscurity two months after its release
>> means at least something.
>>
>> Funny, I didn't expect to start such a stink by describing "Radioactive"
>> as a "great song". Though it does make me tap my feet and bob my head,
>> it does NOT make me feel the way Satchmo does when he sings "It's a
>> Wonderful World". Perhaps that can serve as my apology for stepping on
>> YOUR idea of a "great song". :-)
>>
>
> You are a much more diplomatic and patient man than I. :-)
Yeah, I've been trying to do better at that. As time goes on I've been seeking
to reduce the amount of stress in my life. I'm sure you're familiar with the
definition of stress to which I'm referring: "The confusion caused when the
mind tries to override the body's desire to choke the living shit out of some
asshole who desperately needs it". :-)
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On 3/16/12 3:22 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> You are a much more diplomatic and patient man than I. :-)
>
> Yeah, I've been trying to do better at that. As time goes on I've been
> seeking to reduce the amount of stress in my life. I'm sure you're
> familiar with the definition of stress to which I'm referring: "The
> confusion caused when the mind tries to override the body's desire to
> choke the living shit out of some asshole who desperately needs it". :-)
>
Like, +1 and all that other stuff!
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-MIKE-
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On 3/15/2012 2:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 3/14/2012 9:03 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 3/14/2012 12:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 3/14/12 12:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> All granite is radioactive.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw
>>
>> Great song. :-)
>>
> No, THIS is a great song.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
No, *THIS* is a great song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd-o_kLONVI&feature=related
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On 3/14/2012 9:01 AM, SconnieRoadie wrote:
> On Mar 12, 9:05 pm, Mike<[email protected]> wrote:
>> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
>> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
>> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
>> any means.
>>
>> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
>> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>>
>> I have indicators and straight edges and feeler gages out the
>> ying-yang...I'm a toolmaker by trade.
>>
>> It'll be going in a basement on a Steel City mobile base. It's not
>> going mobile because I want it to, but because I have a VERY small
>> shop. 10.5 X 26 and there are lots of other toys...errrr....much
>> needed machinery down there.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike
>
> Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
> the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
>
> Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
> from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
> radioactive... NOT kidding...
All granite is radioactive.
On 3/14/2012 9:28 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
>> "SconnieRoadie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:c5d74d03-e129-4354-ae4b-44724e2b2534@g16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 12, 9:05 pm, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> SO....I have a new Steel City table saw on order and should be
>>> delivered soon. This will be my first cabinet saw and my current
>>> contractor saw is literally older than I am...and I am not young by
>>> any means.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's one of the granite top ones...has anyone out there got
>>> one and if so, any tips or tricks to setting it up?
>
>
>> Be careful removing the miter gauge from the T slot - you can crack
>> the granite very easily. Also, that fricker is damn heavy...
>
> I got in the habit of pushing the miter gauge and tennon jig off the
> back of the saw and onto the outfeed table when I remove them and vice
> versa. This so I don't bugger things up and have good control over them.
> This technique might be especially useful with the granite top.
>
>
>> Finally, if you want to father any more kids, keep your "boys" away
>> from the top. Saw an article about granite from China being
>> radioactive... NOT kidding...
>
> Sure sounds like competitive product marketing at work... that or if we
> are to believe some groups, Obama. ;~)
http://solidsurfacealliance.org/G-radioactivity-radon-issues.html