Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
above. Over and over and over.......
I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
Any help appreciated.
And thanks a heap,
-Zz
On 8/19/2010 2:19 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Swingman<[email protected]> writes:
>> The beep codes are specific to the BIOS, with different BIOS
>> manufacturers having different beep codes.
>>
>> Do you know how to access the BIOS on your computer, usually a F1 key or
>> similar?
>>
>> Three short beeps is most often a base RAM fault, or with some BIOS', a
>> key board fault. My guess would be toward the former from your description.
>>
>> One relatively simple troubleshooting step:
>>
>> If you can't access the BIOS, or know what to do when you get there, my
>> suggestions would be to remove all the RAM sticks on the motherboard,
>> see if it will boot properly; if it does, replace one, repeat until the
>> fault happens again and that would be your bad memory.
>
> It won't boot at all with no "RAM sticks".
Sorry, bad choice of words "boot". You're right about that, my intention
was see if the BIOS still returned error beeps or would complete POST ...
At least one (and for some
> systems, two) are minimally required for the BIOS to be able to run.
BIOS is usually stored in ROM and, depending upon the design of the
system, will indeed "run" without RAM ... the BIOS is what determines an
error is present and returns the beep.
> The BIOS will execute for a short time out of the L1 cache while it
> configures the DRAM controller(s) and reads the SPD from the DIMMs.
> Once the DRAM is configured the BIOS will copy itself from flash to
> DRAM and continue executing from DRAM.
Granted most modern systems do these days, but not all load BIOS into
RAM. IIRC, some AMD chipsets do not.
> If there is no DRAM, the BIOS will beep, and you'll get no video.
That's the point ... beeps, or no beeps, is what provides the clue of
what to check next.
> I concur with J. Clark, likely the CMOS battery has failed after 6 years
> causing the stored BIOS settings to evaporate. The next most likely
> will be a bad DIMM followed by the Video subsystem.
I'm still leaning toward it being an OS issue and not hardware ...
... and, BTW, ... PC RAM chips have been called "sticks" for years.
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Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
The mobo manual doesn't list the beep codes?
First thing I'd do is go into the BIOS and make sure the hard drive is being
recognized. If so, maybe do a "repair" install of XP from the install CD.
You won't lose any of your stuff.
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>> Done that, no diff. No drives attached to RAID header, never were.
>>
>> -Zz
>
>Does that suggest you should try to NOT have the RAID be called from the
>BIOS, or whatever?
I can't find a way to stop it. When I enter the RAID setup, all the
choices a grayed out, and it lists "No Drive"
The RAID bio screen has flashed since the day I set it up.
Try this: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading...beep-codes.htm
AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
* one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
video card)
* two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other components)
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
>
> -Zz
Try this: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading...beep-codes.htm
AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
* one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
video card)
* two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other components)
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
>
> -Zz
Try this: forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading...beep-codes.htm
AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
* one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
video card)
* two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other components)
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
>
> -Zz
Try this: forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/post-beep-codes.htm
AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
* one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
video card)
* two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other components)
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
>
> -Zz
Try this: forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/post-beep-codes.htm
AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
* one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
video card)
* two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other components)
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
>
> -Zz
Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
*snip*
> Sadly, not so. It's an older board (I mispoke, it's a Soyo KT600).
> I'd also have to replace/upgrade RAM, graphics board, and probably HDD
> (most new boards only support SATA), OS, &tc. I'll check around, but
> it's an expensive endeavor
>
*snip*
Many of the online retailers still have older boards. They're usually
quite inexpensive, between $20-100.
Two that are worth checking out are NewEgg (www.newegg.com) and Computer
Geeks (www.geeks.com). I've dealt with both multiple times, and am
usually satisfied.
Puckdropper
--
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"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:gZxbo.98937$KP3.41712
@hurricane:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Always use Ctrl-F4 or reboot, period."
>
> That's ALT + F4
>
Maybe not. CTRL-F4 closes a window while ALT-F4 closes the application.
Puckdropper
--
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Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>On 8/19/2010 9:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>>
>> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>>
>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>
>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>
>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>
>> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
>The beep codes are specific to the BIOS, with different BIOS
>manufacturers having different beep codes.
>
>Do you know how to access the BIOS on your computer, usually a F1 key or
>similar?
>
>Three short beeps is most often a base RAM fault, or with some BIOS', a
>key board fault. My guess would be toward the former from your description.
>
>One relatively simple troubleshooting step:
>
>If you can't access the BIOS, or know what to do when you get there, my
>suggestions would be to remove all the RAM sticks on the motherboard,
>see if it will boot properly; if it does, replace one, repeat until the
>fault happens again and that would be your bad memory.
It won't boot at all with no "RAM sticks". At least one (and for some
systems, two) are minimally required for the BIOS to be able to run.
The BIOS will execute for a short time out of the L1 cache while it
configures the DRAM controller(s) and reads the SPD from the DIMMs.
Once the DRAM is configured the BIOS will copy itself from flash to
DRAM and continue executing from DRAM.
If there is no DRAM, the BIOS will beep, and you'll get no video.
I concur with J. Clark, likely the CMOS battery has failed after 6 years
causing the stored BIOS settings to evaporate. The next most likely
will be a bad DIMM followed by the Video subsystem.
scott
> Look at the big capacitors on the motherboard. The tops will all have
>a Y shaped indentation if the caps are good. If ANY of them are
>somewhat bulged on the top, the motherboard has failed.
Mine have "X" shapes, and two adjacent ones look bulged and heated.
>A decent tech can replace the bad caps - but usually just as cheap to
>replace/upgrade the motherboard
Sadly, not so. It's an older board (I mispoke, it's a Soyo KT600).
I'd also have to replace/upgrade RAM, graphics board, and probably HDD
(most new boards only support SATA), OS, &tc. I'll check around, but
it's an expensive endeavor
>(and usually re-install windows, or at
>least the required drivers). Generally can be done without losing any
>data if you know a little about what you are doing.
I've taught my daughters to store the important stuff (to them, that's
1000's of pics and mp3's) on a separate HD from that w/ the OS, so I
can blow it out when I need to.
Thanks for the informative response.
-Zz
On 2010-08-20, DGDevin <[email protected]> wrote:
> ordinary, but I see no reason to give them a second chance considering all
> the other suppliers out there.
I was gonna order from newegg, once, but backed off. I forget why,
but reading their website reveals they charge a restocking fee on too
many returns. Hey, you ship me crap and I got pay a fee? Screw that.
nb
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:03:09 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:03:50 -0700, Zz Yzx <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>>Can't comment on the 'bitch' part, but do you expect them to work for
>>>free?
>>
>>Not at all, but I won't pay $100 to diagnose a $60 drive. I suppose
>>if I needed the files on it, but that wasn't the case.
> I jhust paid $300 to a data recovery shop to get the data off a
>flakey $49 drive, and the customer was ecstatic. I warned them it
>could cost $1000 - regenerating all the data from scratch would have
>cost in the high tens of thousands.
I just paid a shop $129 to fix my XP disc. He ended up having to
salvage data, reformat, reload XP, and reload data. I got most of it
back. He told me that several virii and a trojan had gotten through
my vigilance, anti-virus, and anti-malware software. He said "Never,
under any circumstance, use the X to close a popup window for an
unknown or fishy site. Always use Ctrl-F4 or reboot, period."
I was very happy to have paid only $129 for data recovery. He's a
keeper for computer problems.
--
We're all here because we're not all there.
I have, also had good luck with newegg.ca (Canada brother) but not had any
problems so everybody is always nice until you want something. Would use
again, so far.
"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I have had good experiences with Newegg, except for a computer case that
had a dead powersupply. It took some time, but it got all straightened
out. I have and will use them whenever there is a good deal I can use.
--
Best regards
Han
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"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Two that are worth checking out are NewEgg (www.newegg.com) and
>> Computer Geeks (www.geeks.com). I've dealt with both multiple times,
>> and am usually satisfied.
>
> I bought from Newegg once, and only once. They shipped me a video
> card that was DOA, and when I called to return it they acted like they
> were doing me a particular favor by taking it back. One "service" rep
> said they were under to obligation to take back a defective product,
> they could make me deal with the mfg. if they wanted to. They also
> wanted to charge me return shipping for a product that didn't work out
> of the box until I told them I would have my bank reverse the original
> charge and wait for them to send a UPS call-tag to get back the
> defective product, then they decided they would be gracious enough to
> pay for the return shipping. Maybe my experience was out of the
> ordinary, but I see no reason to give them a second chance considering
> all the other suppliers out there.
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:24:53 -0500, Steve Turner
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/20/2010 1:30 PM, DGDevin wrote:
>>
>> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Two that are worth checking out are NewEgg (www.newegg.com) and Computer
>>> Geeks (www.geeks.com). I've dealt with both multiple times, and am
>>> usually satisfied.
>>
>> I bought from Newegg once, and only once. They shipped me a video card that was
>> DOA, and when I called to return it they acted like they were doing me a
>> particular favor by taking it back. One "service" rep said they were under to
>> obligation to take back a defective product, they could make me deal with the
>> mfg. if they wanted to. They also wanted to charge me return shipping for a
>> product that didn't work out of the box until I told them I would have my bank
>> reverse the original charge and wait for them to send a UPS call-tag to get
>> back the defective product, then they decided they would be gracious enough to
>> pay for the return shipping. Maybe my experience was out of the ordinary, but I
>> see no reason to give them a second chance considering all the other suppliers
>> out there.
>
>My Dad buys stuff from NewEgg, but they've never convinced me that they're any
>better than TigerDirect, which is where I always shop. Probably a half-dozen
>times I've filled up shopping carts at both sites with the exact same stuff,
>and TigerDirect always comes out with a better deal. Of course that's not the
>whole story since good customer service is worth paying for, but I've never had
>a single problem with TigerDirect.
Tiger direct sells a lot more junk than NewEgg. It's been a decade since I
was involved in this stuff (x86 hardware), but they were really into some
sleazy stuff then. AIUI, Tiger Direct now owns CircusShitty online spam. I
wouldn't buy from them.
"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sadly, not so. It's an older board (I mispoke, it's a Soyo KT600).
> I'd also have to replace/upgrade RAM, graphics board, and probably HDD
> (most new boards only support SATA), OS, &tc. I'll check around, but
> it's an expensive endeavor
There are lots of outboard enclosures for IDE drives that connect via USB.
I like the Vantec NexStar GX as it has a cooling fan and is easy to set up.
So once you get your new machine (I just went through this with a
top-of-the-line Dell and Dell's grossly overpriced repair parts) you can
recover your data with minimal hassle even though your new motherboard will
be all-SATA.
On 8/19/2010 2:29 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>
> Once that is known either good/bad then it becomes a windows issue.
> MoBo, system bios, and motherboard are all fine.
I'd tend to agree that it could well be a whacked out windows issue ...
Windows Update? (just kidding....)
From what I've read of the symptoms I'd be tempted, at this point, to
attempt to recover my data with a bootable disk of some type (maybe burn
a Ubuntu boot disk) see if I can access the files and save them to
another media, reformat, reinstall XP, and see if the problem persists.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
Can you download or have someone download& burn a "HIRENS BOOT DISK" for you ?? It's easily found in a GOOGLE search, and it is a bootable disk. Once it is loaded, you have MANY options to diagnose/repair/restore all sorts of hard drive boot problems. It even gives you the optio to boot into a MINI XP OS that allows you to backup any/all data to cd/dvd blanks. If you can't get the disk and are not in a BIG hurry, get in touch and I'll send you one.
On 8/19/2010 9:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
The beep codes are specific to the BIOS, with different BIOS
manufacturers having different beep codes.
Do you know how to access the BIOS on your computer, usually a F1 key or
similar?
Three short beeps is most often a base RAM fault, or with some BIOS', a
key board fault. My guess would be toward the former from your description.
One relatively simple troubleshooting step:
If you can't access the BIOS, or know what to do when you get there, my
suggestions would be to remove all the RAM sticks on the motherboard,
see if it will boot properly; if it does, replace one, repeat until the
fault happens again and that would be your bad memory.
If that doesn't offer a solution, and you don't know your way around a
BIOS, then you need some local geek advice at a local computer place.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
Sorry, It kept telling me it failed.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Michael Kenefick wrote:
>> Try this: forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
>>
>>
>> http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/post-beep-codes.htm
>>
>> AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
>>
>> There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
>>
>> * one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
>> video card)
>> * two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other
>> components)
>
> All right - you get the award for the best post so far in reply to this
> thread. But good lord fellow - take your finger off the send key sooner.
>
Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> OK, more info:
>
> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
> screen that appears has always appeared.
> 5. snip The disks and partitions are all fine. No viruses found.
<snip>
Disks, as in plural? I had a machine with RAID1, 2 drives mirroring each
other. Windows update always screwed this up, so I finally killed the
RAID. But before that, I could take out one of the drives, and the machone
would boot fine. Can you go down to just one hard drive and see whether
the machine will boot?
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Han
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Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 19 Aug 2010 21:46:03 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>><snip>
>>> OK, more info:
>>>
>>> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
>>> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
>>> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
>>> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
>>> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
>>> screen that appears has always appeared.
>>> 5. snip The disks and partitions are all fine. No viruses found.
>><snip>
>>
>>Disks, as in plural? I had a machine with RAID1, 2 drives mirroring
>>each other. Windows update always screwed this up, so I finally
>>killed the RAID. But before that, I could take out one of the drives,
>>and the machone would boot fine. Can you go down to just one hard
>>drive and see whether the machine will boot?
>
>
> Thanks Han.
>
> Done that, no diff. No drives attached to RAID header, never were.
>
> -Zz
Does that suggest you should try to NOT have the RAID be called from the
BIOS, or whatever?
--
Best regards
Han
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"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Two that are worth checking out are NewEgg (www.newegg.com) and
>> Computer Geeks (www.geeks.com). I've dealt with both multiple times,
>> and am usually satisfied.
>
> I bought from Newegg once, and only once. They shipped me a video
> card that was DOA, and when I called to return it they acted like they
> were doing me a particular favor by taking it back. One "service" rep
> said they were under to obligation to take back a defective product,
> they could make me deal with the mfg. if they wanted to. They also
> wanted to charge me return shipping for a product that didn't work out
> of the box until I told them I would have my bank reverse the original
> charge and wait for them to send a UPS call-tag to get back the
> defective product, then they decided they would be gracious enough to
> pay for the return shipping. Maybe my experience was out of the
> ordinary, but I see no reason to give them a second chance considering
> all the other suppliers out there.
I have had good experiences with Newegg, except for a computer case that
had a dead powersupply. It took some time, but it got all straightened
out. I have and will use them whenever there is a good deal I can use.
--
Best regards
Han
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"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I have, also had good luck with newegg.ca (Canada brother) but not had
> any problems so everybody is always nice until you want something.
> Would use again, so far.
>
>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> I have had good experiences with Newegg, except for a computer case
> that had a dead powersupply. It took some time, but it got all
> straightened out. I have and will use them whenever there is a good
> deal I can use.
Mine was partly a shipping problem. The case was probably either not
packaged well enough, or thrown around too much, and arrived in a state
that it would really close well. What exactly was wrong with the power
supply, I don't know, but it didn't work.
I've ordered many times without any problems from Newegg.
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email address is invalid
"notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> ordinary, but I see no reason to give them a second chance considering
>> all
>> the other suppliers out there.
>
> I was gonna order from newegg, once, but backed off. I forget why,
> but reading their website reveals they charge a restocking fee on too
> many returns. Hey, you ship me crap and I got pay a fee? Screw that.
>
> nb
I can see a restocking fee if I just change my mind and want to return
something for no particular reason (and if their return policy was clear
when I purchased). There is such a thing as the returnaholic customer and I
figure stores can have policies to discourage that behavior provided they
make those policies clear. But demanding someone pay return shipping on a
*defective* product is way over the line IMO.
Michael Kenefick wrote:
> Try this: forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=199401
>
>
> http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/post-beep-codes.htm
>
> AWARD BIOS ERROR BEEP CODES
>
> There are 2 main beep codes for the Award BIOS:
>
> * one long beep and two short beeps - Video error (reseat or replace
> video card)
> * two short beeps - Non-Fatal Error (reseat RAM, check other
> components)
All right - you get the award for the best post so far in reply to this
thread. But good lord fellow - take your finger off the send key sooner.
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:34:05 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I lost a motherboard in the shop - it was naturally the only LSI chip
>that didn't have a heat sink - Disk controller...
>
> From the Bios, I found I could read the voltages in the system.
>That might be instructive. If one is flaky or bad - it detects it early.
>
>Martin
>
>Martin H. Eastburn
>@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
>"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
>TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
>NRA Second Amendment Task Force Originator & Charter Founder
>IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
>
>On 8/19/2010 4:36 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>>
>>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>>
>>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>
>>
>> OK, more info:
>>
>> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
>> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
>> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
>> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
>> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
>> screen that appears has always appeared.
>> 5. I was able to boot to the Norton Emergency Disk; it said it
>> repaired an error in the WinXP registry. The disks and partitions are
>> all fine. No viruses found.
>> 6. I tried running the repair feature on the WinXP disk, and then the
>> repair feature listed under the full install. It hangs up a lot, asks
>> me for the Chipset Drivers (Via),&tc. When the machine reboots, it
>> keeps returing to the WinXP setup screen, even if there's no WinXP
>> disk, and after several re-boots with other bootable disks.
>> 7. A couple capacitors have a slight bulge on teh top. I'm leaniong
>> to a blown MB.
>>
>> You guys are grat, thanks for the responses.
>>
>> -Zz
Even ONE bulged cap on the board can cause the issue - and you most
likely have either 4 or 6, depending on the board design..
IF you can find a board that uses the same chipset the hard drive will
plug on and run the system just fine on the new board - otherwise you
will need to do some re-installing of the OS and drivers.
More likely you will also need to replace the CPU and RAM because you
won't be able to locate a compatible board. ASUS uses a lot of solid
caps now - which are supposed to be better than the old electrolitics
- but even the ASUS P5QPL-AM board I installed on a customer's system
the other week had 6 electrolytics in the power section - where they
usually blow - and the solid caps are touted as 5000 hr in the voltage
regulator module (I assume at 105C - the temp rating of the caps)
Don't know about you, but 208.33 days doesn't sound like long life to
me.
If they run at 65 degrees instead of 105, the lifespan should be
closer to 50,000 hours - which is a bit over 5.5 years. - which is
respectable but not exemplary life.
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:21:50 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> I just paid a shop $129 to fix my XP disc. He ended up having to
>> salvage data, reformat, reload XP, and reload data. I got most of it
>> back. He told me that several virii and a trojan had gotten through
>> my vigilance, anti-virus, and anti-malware software. He said "Never,
>> under any circumstance, use the X to close a popup window for an
>> unknown or fishy site.
>
>Always use Ctrl-F4 or reboot, period."
>
>That's ALT + F4
Ctrl-F4 closes the window/tab. Alt-F4 closes the program.
Choose carefully, grasshoppa.
--
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:28:11 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On the install CD you can boot off that and there are repair utilities that
>can sometimes fix things for you.
>If the basic system boots then you know the hardware is good.
>
>
>
>"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
>My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
>Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
>If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>above. Over and over and over.......
>
>I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
>It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>And thanks a heap,
>
>-Zz
>
Look at the big capacitors on the motherboard. The tops will all have
a Y shaped indentation if the caps are good. If ANY of them are
somewhat bulged on the top, the motherboard has failed. A decent tech
can replace the bad caps - but usually just as cheap to
replace/upgrade the motherboard (and usually re-install windows, or at
least the required drivers). Generally can be done without losing any
data if you know a little about what you are doing.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> I just paid a shop $129 to fix my XP disc. He ended up having to
> salvage data, reformat, reload XP, and reload data. I got most of it
> back. He told me that several virii and a trojan had gotten through
> my vigilance, anti-virus, and anti-malware software. He said "Never,
> under any circumstance, use the X to close a popup window for an
> unknown or fishy site.
Always use Ctrl-F4 or reboot, period."
That's ALT + F4
--
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"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Mine was partly a shipping problem. The case was probably either not
packaged well enough, or thrown around too much, and arrived in a state
that it would really close well. What exactly was wrong with the power
supply, I don't know, but it didn't work.
I've ordered many times without any problems from Newegg.
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I have, also had good luck with newegg.ca (Canada brother) but not had
> any problems so everybody is always nice until you want something.
> Would use again, so far.
>
>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> I have had good experiences with Newegg, except for a computer case
> that had a dead powersupply. It took some time, but it got all
> straightened out. I have and will use them whenever there is a good
> deal I can use.
I lost a motherboard in the shop - it was naturally the only LSI chip
that didn't have a heat sink - Disk controller...
From the Bios, I found I could read the voltages in the system.
That might be instructive. If one is flaky or bad - it detects it early.
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Originator & Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
On 8/19/2010 4:36 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>
>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>
>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
>
> OK, more info:
>
> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
> screen that appears has always appeared.
> 5. I was able to boot to the Norton Emergency Disk; it said it
> repaired an error in the WinXP registry. The disks and partitions are
> all fine. No viruses found.
> 6. I tried running the repair feature on the WinXP disk, and then the
> repair feature listed under the full install. It hangs up a lot, asks
> me for the Chipset Drivers (Via),&tc. When the machine reboots, it
> keeps returing to the WinXP setup screen, even if there's no WinXP
> disk, and after several re-boots with other bootable disks.
> 7. A couple capacitors have a slight bulge on teh top. I'm leaniong
> to a blown MB.
>
> You guys are grat, thanks for the responses.
>
> -Zz
On 8/19/2010 10:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
You mentioned RAID--if there's a RAID controller on board go into the
BIOS setup and make sure that the RAID controller is turned on.
Also, 6 years old, see if there's a coin battery on the motherboard--if
so try replacing it--it might have died resulting in the machine
forgetting its setup--you'll have to redo the setup if that's the
problem, and if you didn't write down the original settings then you may
have to do some trial and error.
On 8/19/10 12:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 8/19/2010 10:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>>
>> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>>
>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>
>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>
>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>
>> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> And thanks a heap,
>
>
> You mentioned RAID--if there's a RAID controller on board go into the
> BIOS setup and make sure that the RAID controller is turned on.
>
> Also, 6 years old, see if there's a coin battery on the motherboard--if
> so try replacing it--it might have died resulting in the machine
> forgetting its setup--you'll have to redo the setup if that's the
> problem, and if you didn't write down the original settings then you may
> have to do some trial and error.
>
Also most, if not all RAID controllers have their own BIOS setup, and
some have their own battery.
Check both, depending on the controller you have.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 8/19/10 3:19 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Swingman<[email protected]> writes:
>> On 8/19/2010 9:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>>> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>>>
>>> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>>>
>>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>>
>>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>>
>>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>>
>>> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>>
>> The beep codes are specific to the BIOS, with different BIOS
>> manufacturers having different beep codes.
>>
>> Do you know how to access the BIOS on your computer, usually a F1 key or
>> similar?
>>
>> Three short beeps is most often a base RAM fault, or with some BIOS', a
>> key board fault. My guess would be toward the former from your description.
>>
>> One relatively simple troubleshooting step:
>>
>> If you can't access the BIOS, or know what to do when you get there, my
>> suggestions would be to remove all the RAM sticks on the motherboard,
>> see if it will boot properly; if it does, replace one, repeat until the
>> fault happens again and that would be your bad memory.
>
> It won't boot at all with no "RAM sticks". At least one (and for some
> systems, two) are minimally required for the BIOS to be able to run.
>
> The BIOS will execute for a short time out of the L1 cache while it
> configures the DRAM controller(s) and reads the SPD from the DIMMs.
> Once the DRAM is configured the BIOS will copy itself from flash to
> DRAM and continue executing from DRAM.
>
> If there is no DRAM, the BIOS will beep, and you'll get no video.
>
> I concur with J. Clark, likely the CMOS battery has failed after 6 years
> causing the stored BIOS settings to evaporate. The next most likely
> will be a bad DIMM followed by the Video subsystem.
What part about the OP's post suggests that, he said he saw the BIOS
splash screen, the Windows splash screen, then a RAID splash screen.
Once the Windows splash screen appears the BIOS is essentially done, it
is failing after the RAID splash screen, or during, hard to tell.
He has to check (or have someone else check), the RAID controller,
either it's BIOS or battery is corrupt, if it is a RAID fault, or there
is a major RAID fault, depending on how all that was initially configured.
Once that is known either good/bad then it becomes a windows issue.
MoBo, system bios, and motherboard are all fine.
--
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 8/19/10 4:00 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 8/19/2010 3:29 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>> On 8/19/10 3:19 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> Swingman<[email protected]> writes:
>>>> On 8/19/2010 9:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>>>>> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>>>>>
>>>>> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>>>>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>>>>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>>>>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>>>>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>>>>
>>>> The beep codes are specific to the BIOS, with different BIOS
>>>> manufacturers having different beep codes.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know how to access the BIOS on your computer, usually a F1
>>>> key or
>>>> similar?
>>>>
>>>> Three short beeps is most often a base RAM fault, or with some BIOS', a
>>>> key board fault. My guess would be toward the former from your
>>>> description.
>>>>
>>>> One relatively simple troubleshooting step:
>>>>
>>>> If you can't access the BIOS, or know what to do when you get there, my
>>>> suggestions would be to remove all the RAM sticks on the motherboard,
>>>> see if it will boot properly; if it does, replace one, repeat until the
>>>> fault happens again and that would be your bad memory.
>>>
>>> It won't boot at all with no "RAM sticks". At least one (and for some
>>> systems, two) are minimally required for the BIOS to be able to run.
>>>
>>> The BIOS will execute for a short time out of the L1 cache while it
>>> configures the DRAM controller(s) and reads the SPD from the DIMMs.
>>> Once the DRAM is configured the BIOS will copy itself from flash to
>>> DRAM and continue executing from DRAM.
>>>
>>> If there is no DRAM, the BIOS will beep, and you'll get no video.
>>>
>>> I concur with J. Clark, likely the CMOS battery has failed after 6 years
>>> causing the stored BIOS settings to evaporate. The next most likely
>>> will be a bad DIMM followed by the Video subsystem.
>>
>> What part about the OP's post suggests that, he said he saw the BIOS
>> splash screen, the Windows splash screen, then a RAID splash screen.
>> Once the Windows splash screen appears the BIOS is essentially done, it
>> is failing after the RAID splash screen, or during, hard to tell.
>>
>> He has to check (or have someone else check), the RAID controller,
>> either it's BIOS or battery is corrupt, if it is a RAID fault, or there
>> is a major RAID fault, depending on how all that was initially
>> configured.
>>
>> Once that is known either good/bad then it becomes a windows issue.
>> MoBo, system bios, and motherboard are all fine.
>
> Many motherboards today have RAID controllers built into the
> chipset--they're not necessarily third-party boards--but there is
> generally a configuration option in the BIOS setup to turn that feature
> on or off. If it's gotten turned off and the machine is configured to
> require it in order to boot that would be causing the problem described.
> Of course the machine may have a third-party RAID controller instead or
> in addition.
>
> It sounds like the RAID controller Windows driver is trying to load and
> not finding whatever it expects.
>
Absolutely, if a RAID driver is attempting to load, Windows was
initially setup to load one. Given the OP said the Mobo was 5 years
old, on board raid is less likely, but still a possibility I had
overlooked.
We need more info from the OP if he is able to provide it.
--
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 8/19/2010 3:29 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 8/19/10 3:19 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Swingman<[email protected]> writes:
>>> On 8/19/2010 9:02 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>>>> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>>>>
>>>> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>>>>
>>>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>>>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>>>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>>>
>>>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>>>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>>>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>>>
>>>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>>>
>>>> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>>>
>>> The beep codes are specific to the BIOS, with different BIOS
>>> manufacturers having different beep codes.
>>>
>>> Do you know how to access the BIOS on your computer, usually a F1 key or
>>> similar?
>>>
>>> Three short beeps is most often a base RAM fault, or with some BIOS', a
>>> key board fault. My guess would be toward the former from your
>>> description.
>>>
>>> One relatively simple troubleshooting step:
>>>
>>> If you can't access the BIOS, or know what to do when you get there, my
>>> suggestions would be to remove all the RAM sticks on the motherboard,
>>> see if it will boot properly; if it does, replace one, repeat until the
>>> fault happens again and that would be your bad memory.
>>
>> It won't boot at all with no "RAM sticks". At least one (and for some
>> systems, two) are minimally required for the BIOS to be able to run.
>>
>> The BIOS will execute for a short time out of the L1 cache while it
>> configures the DRAM controller(s) and reads the SPD from the DIMMs.
>> Once the DRAM is configured the BIOS will copy itself from flash to
>> DRAM and continue executing from DRAM.
>>
>> If there is no DRAM, the BIOS will beep, and you'll get no video.
>>
>> I concur with J. Clark, likely the CMOS battery has failed after 6 years
>> causing the stored BIOS settings to evaporate. The next most likely
>> will be a bad DIMM followed by the Video subsystem.
>
> What part about the OP's post suggests that, he said he saw the BIOS
> splash screen, the Windows splash screen, then a RAID splash screen.
> Once the Windows splash screen appears the BIOS is essentially done, it
> is failing after the RAID splash screen, or during, hard to tell.
>
> He has to check (or have someone else check), the RAID controller,
> either it's BIOS or battery is corrupt, if it is a RAID fault, or there
> is a major RAID fault, depending on how all that was initially configured.
>
> Once that is known either good/bad then it becomes a windows issue.
> MoBo, system bios, and motherboard are all fine.
Many motherboards today have RAID controllers built into the
chipset--they're not necessarily third-party boards--but there is
generally a configuration option in the BIOS setup to turn that feature
on or off. If it's gotten turned off and the machine is configured to
require it in order to boot that would be causing the problem described.
Of course the machine may have a third-party RAID controller instead
or in addition.
It sounds like the RAID controller Windows driver is trying to load and
not finding whatever it expects.
On 8/19/10 6:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 8/19/2010 5:48 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
>> On 19 Aug 2010 21:46:03 GMT, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Zz Yzx<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>> OK, more info:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
>>>> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
>>>> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
>>>> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
>>>> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
>>>> screen that appears has always appeared.
>>>> 5. snip The disks and partitions are all fine. No viruses found.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Disks, as in plural? I had a machine with RAID1, 2 drives mirroring each
>>> other. Windows update always screwed this up, so I finally killed the
>>> RAID. But before that, I could take out one of the drives, and the
>>> machone
>>> would boot fine. Can you go down to just one hard drive and see whether
>>> the machine will boot?
>>
>>
>> Thanks Han.
>>
>> Done that, no diff. No drives attached to RAID header, never were.
>
> Curiouser and curiouser. Could she have tried to set up a RAID?
The RAID may have been turned on when windows was set up and silently
failed upon not seeing an array of drives. Disable the RAID in the
BIOS, and maybe the fail is a bit more catastrophic?
Just a wild guess.
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On 8/19/2010 5:48 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2010 21:46:03 GMT, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Zz Yzx<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> <snip>
>>> OK, more info:
>>>
>>> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
>>> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
>>> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
>>> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
>>> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
>>> screen that appears has always appeared.
>>> 5. snip The disks and partitions are all fine. No viruses found.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Disks, as in plural? I had a machine with RAID1, 2 drives mirroring each
>> other. Windows update always screwed this up, so I finally killed the
>> RAID. But before that, I could take out one of the drives, and the machone
>> would boot fine. Can you go down to just one hard drive and see whether
>> the machine will boot?
>
>
> Thanks Han.
>
> Done that, no diff. No drives attached to RAID header, never were.
Curiouser and curiouser. Could she have tried to set up a RAID?
On 8/20/2010 1:30 PM, DGDevin wrote:
>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Two that are worth checking out are NewEgg (www.newegg.com) and Computer
>> Geeks (www.geeks.com). I've dealt with both multiple times, and am
>> usually satisfied.
>
> I bought from Newegg once, and only once. They shipped me a video card that was
> DOA, and when I called to return it they acted like they were doing me a
> particular favor by taking it back. One "service" rep said they were under to
> obligation to take back a defective product, they could make me deal with the
> mfg. if they wanted to. They also wanted to charge me return shipping for a
> product that didn't work out of the box until I told them I would have my bank
> reverse the original charge and wait for them to send a UPS call-tag to get
> back the defective product, then they decided they would be gracious enough to
> pay for the return shipping. Maybe my experience was out of the ordinary, but I
> see no reason to give them a second chance considering all the other suppliers
> out there.
My Dad buys stuff from NewEgg, but they've never convinced me that they're any
better than TigerDirect, which is where I always shop. Probably a half-dozen
times I've filled up shopping carts at both sites with the exact same stuff,
and TigerDirect always comes out with a better deal. Of course that's not the
whole story since good customer service is worth paying for, but I've never had
a single problem with TigerDirect.
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Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sadly, not so. It's an older board (I mispoke, it's a Soyo KT600).
> I'd also have to replace/upgrade RAM, graphics board, and probably HDD
> (most new boards only support SATA)
If need be, there are inexpensive adapters to use IDE drives with SATA
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On 8/20/2010 9:14 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> I was very happy to have paid only $129 for data recovery. He's a
> keeper for computer problems.
A few months back my Dad's XP HD went South and eventually required a
data recovery service to the North of $500 to recover 20 years of race
horse records and genealogy data.
Obviously worth it to him.
A back up freak from admining upwards of 20 servers in two locations in
the nineties, and beaucoup digital recording sessions where trying to
rebuild the wheel would literally cost hundreds of thousands, I've now
gone to using Carbonite for my scaled down personal office needs.
When working on kitchen designs lately Carbonite has come in handy quite
a few times when I've overwritten a file I was working on with a newer
design version that didn't quite work. Being able to go back and
retrieve a previous version with the same file name saves a ton of work.
And the data being backed up off site, even if it is on the "cloud",
however long that concept lasts, is comforting for now.
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On 2010-08-19, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
Howzabout a clue? Did she load a free app? Install a new component. Move
box from one area to another. Spill chocolate milk in/on it?
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
If you are familiar with the inner workings of a computer, open it up,
remove all the boards and plug them back in. Same with memory and IDE
cables, both cables at both ends. Try again.
While it doesn't cycle, one of my desktops occasionally gets a "no
hdd" error and freezes. I gotta turn it off, give it a slight kick,
and reboot. Works jes fine! It could be MANY things.
nb
On the install CD you can boot off that and there are repair utilities that
can sometimes fix things for you.
If the basic system boots then you know the hardware is good.
"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
above. Over and over and over.......
I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
Any help appreciated.
And thanks a heap,
-Zz
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
> above. Over and over and over.......
>
> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> And thanks a heap,
>
Go to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroup.
Boot-cycling is a fairly common problem.
Many of the PC Boards these days used in CPU applications are 7 layer boards
and you cannot solder them.
"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Look at the big capacitors on the motherboard. The tops will all have
>a Y shaped indentation if the caps are good. If ANY of them are
>somewhat bulged on the top, the motherboard has failed.
Mine have "X" shapes, and two adjacent ones look bulged and heated.
>A decent tech can replace the bad caps - but usually just as cheap to
>replace/upgrade the motherboard
Sadly, not so. It's an older board (I mispoke, it's a Soyo KT600).
I'd also have to replace/upgrade RAM, graphics board, and probably HDD
(most new boards only support SATA), OS, &tc. I'll check around, but
it's an expensive endeavor
>(and usually re-install windows, or at
>least the required drivers). Generally can be done without losing any
>data if you know a little about what you are doing.
I've taught my daughters to store the important stuff (to them, that's
1000's of pics and mp3's) on a separate HD from that w/ the OS, so I
can blow it out when I need to.
Thanks for the informative response.
-Zz
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:02:28 -0700, Zz Yzx <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>
>My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>
>Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
>If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>above. Over and over and over.......
>
>I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>
>It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>And thanks a heap,
If you can get to safe mode,
To keep the puter from rebooting constantly,
Start to Settings
Control Panel
System
Advanced
Startup and Recovery
In the System failure area
uncheck Automatically Restart.
As to what is wrong a change of battery would not be a bad idea as to
start. Check all the connections to the MB.
I had a bad memory stick drive me nuts. It rebooted over and over and
messed up the hard drive to the point of no return, good luck.
Mark
>Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>
>If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>above. Over and over and over.......
>
>I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
OK, more info:
1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
screen that appears has always appeared.
5. I was able to boot to the Norton Emergency Disk; it said it
repaired an error in the WinXP registry. The disks and partitions are
all fine. No viruses found.
6. I tried running the repair feature on the WinXP disk, and then the
repair feature listed under the full install. It hangs up a lot, asks
me for the Chipset Drivers (Via), &tc. When the machine reboots, it
keeps returing to the WinXP setup screen, even if there's no WinXP
disk, and after several re-boots with other bootable disks.
7. A couple capacitors have a slight bulge on teh top. I'm leaniong
to a blown MB.
You guys are grat, thanks for the responses.
-Zz
Zz Yzx <[email protected]> writes:
>>If that doesn't offer a solution, and you don't know your way around a
>>BIOS, then you need some local geek advice at a local computer place.
>
>YEah.... last time, Best Buy wanted to charge me $99.99 to diagnose a
>HDD that I could by for $59. And she was a bitch about it.
Can't comment on the 'bitch' part, but do you expect them to work for
free?
scott
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:03:50 -0700, Zz Yzx <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>>Can't comment on the 'bitch' part, but do you expect them to work for
>>free?
>
>Not at all, but I won't pay $100 to diagnose a $60 drive. I suppose
>if I needed the files on it, but that wasn't the case.
I jhust paid $300 to a data recovery shop to get the data off a
flakey $49 drive, and the customer was ecstatic. I warned them it
could cost $1000 - regenerating all the data from scratch would have
cost in the high tens of thousands.
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:10:58 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Sorry for the OT post, but I'm a little desparate.
>>
>> My daughter did SOMETHING, I don't know what.
>>
>> Now, on boot-up,her computer just cycles through the motherboard
>> splash screen, then the WinXP splash screen, then the RAID screen, and
>> repeats. And repeats. And repeats. Over and over again.
>>
>> If I try to boot in Safe Mode, sometimes I get 3 beeps. Other times,
>> it just ignores the Safe Mode and goes through the loop described
>> above. Over and over and over.......
>>
>> I can't find any reference to the beep codes.
>>
>> It's a 5-6 yr old Soyo SY-5EMA+ ver. 2 MB.
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> And thanks a heap,
>
>
>The mobo manual doesn't list the beep codes?
You'd think so, but no. And I can't find them on teh net.
>
>First thing I'd do is go into the BIOS and make sure the hard drive is being
>recognized. If so, maybe do a "repair" install of XP from the install CD.
>You won't lose any of your stuff.
On 19 Aug 2010 21:46:03 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
><snip>
>> OK, more info:
>>
>> 1. I changed the BIOS battery on the MB, no difference.
>> 2. I can access the CMOS screen; it reads my HDDs and other IDE
>> devices fine. I can change the boot sequence.
>> 3. I ran a RAM diagnostics tool, RAM appears fine.
>> 4. The MB supports RAID but I never configured it to run. The RAID
>> screen that appears has always appeared.
>> 5. snip The disks and partitions are all fine. No viruses found.
><snip>
>
>Disks, as in plural? I had a machine with RAID1, 2 drives mirroring each
>other. Windows update always screwed this up, so I finally killed the
>RAID. But before that, I could take out one of the drives, and the machone
>would boot fine. Can you go down to just one hard drive and see whether
>the machine will boot?
Thanks Han.
Done that, no diff. No drives attached to RAID header, never were.
-Zz
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Two that are worth checking out are NewEgg (www.newegg.com) and Computer
> Geeks (www.geeks.com). I've dealt with both multiple times, and am
> usually satisfied.
I bought from Newegg once, and only once. They shipped me a video card that
was DOA, and when I called to return it they acted like they were doing me a
particular favor by taking it back. One "service" rep said they were under
to obligation to take back a defective product, they could make me deal with
the mfg. if they wanted to. They also wanted to charge me return shipping
for a product that didn't work out of the box until I told them I would have
my bank reverse the original charge and wait for them to send a UPS call-tag
to get back the defective product, then they decided they would be gracious
enough to pay for the return shipping. Maybe my experience was out of the
ordinary, but I see no reason to give them a second chance considering all
the other suppliers out there.